Has anyone ever seen a 120 TPU Resort?

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

Ridewithme38, just who do you think will post to your list? Several who post a lot have already informed you that they will not post your requested information. Keep up the fight, it is very entertaining to read.

This thread has brought a few people out of the shadows...because of the venom being thrown at me by some of the 'well known' posters, people have been afraid to post here....(also because i've asked people NOT to post them publicly till we get a big list) but PM's and emails on both here and Tug have been VERY informative...granted i only have about 15-17 that i've verified so far...but the list is growing

I like the conversations going on here...it keeps the thread bumped...and the many that ARE interested in contributing and care about other members instead of just taking care of themselves...know how to contact me

[taffy19 Gold Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close taffy19]

Who are you? By any chance, are you working for RCI and want us to spoon feed you the little loopholes some have found so that RCI can take it away again without doing their own homework?

It is starting to become us against the big developers or exchange companies (in our case) as they are clearly out to take advantage of us any way they can.

No wonder that resale values are plummeting and timeshare owners are fleeing while they still can.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

Who are you? By any chance, are you working for RCI and want us to spoon feed you the little loopholes some have found so that RCI can take it away again without doing their own homework?

No loopholes here...i'm just trying to figure out a list of the weeks RCI figures are the most valuable, so that everyone here will have the advantage of knowing whats the best in the area's they are looking for...the ones they give the most TPU value to...so far from what i can tell...they are centered around about 4 states(5 if you count Hawaii, yah its a state, but no one can just drive there) and not all beach locations...but hopefully as the list expands it should atleast double that number

I don't see why they would take anything away if we just talk numbers...ya, know the basics resort name, state, Deposit TPU, Exchange TPU...If we include additional information like reviews of the resort or Maintenance fees...MAYBE they could use it, thats why i think its important to keep the list and thread limited to that information...But the information we'll be posting will be directly from their website...nothing they don't already know

[logan115 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close logan115]

I know that you keep referring to a list large enough that there will be so many options that there won't be another SA issue, however, why would I post the resort that I own at and risk that my resort ends up losing value ?

I think that's one of the things people are trying to tell you, although perhaps they're being a bit more subtle.

Many people both here and on TUG offer input as to what a "good" deal may be for those looking purely to exchange the units, but I really don't know what good having some list posted somewhere is going to do. Clearly once the list is complete and posted folks are going to look at the "best" unit, buy it and then deposit it. If it's the "best" unit and gets high TPUs because there aren't a lot of deposits, what is going to happen when there are 3 times as many deposits ?

If you're looking for a timeshare for yourself and had questions on several of the potential units you are looking at I'm sure people would provide their opinions, but as much as the folks here are very willing to share their tips and tricks I don't blame them one bit for also being careful not to diminish the value they can currently get from their timeshares.

Chris

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

No loopholes here...i'm just trying to figure out a list of the weeks RCI figures are the most valuable, so that everyone here will have the advantage of knowing whats the best in the area's they are looking for...the ones they give the most TPU value to...so far from what i can tell...they are centered around about 4 states(5 if you count Hawaii, yah its a state, but no one can just drive there) and not all beach locations...but hopefully as the list expands it should atleast double that number

I don't see why they would take anything away if we just talk numbers...ya, know the basics resort name, state, Deposit TPU, Exchange TPU...If we include additional information like reviews of the resort or Maintenance fees...MAYBE they could use it, thats why i think its important to keep the list and thread limited to that information...But the information we'll be posting will be directly from their website...nothing they don't already know

I know YOU do not understand that posting information like this will result in RCI devaluing/lowering/taking away the amount of points given for a resort/unit/week deposit value TPU but most people here that have had dealings with RCI do know/understand this BIG TIME.

Gregs example of the value of SouthAfrican timeshares is just one of MANY examples of RCI changing the game mid-stream which is why more experienced owners/members here and on TUG have been trying to get you to understand it.

Is there a reason WHY you can not comprehend what others are saying?

There is no "rights" associated with how many TPUs RCI gives for a weeks ownership as it is not a deeded right as it is in a real points program.

RCI's history of action is to read boards like TS4Ms and TUG and then close the 'loopholes" that people have discovered.

[djyamyam Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close djyamyam]

Clearly once the list is complete and posted folks are going to look at the "best" unit, buy it and then deposit it. If it's the "best" unit and gets high TPUs because there aren't a lot of deposits, what is going to happen when there are 3 times as many deposits ?

This is a very key point, Ride. RCI specifically states in their documentation that trade power is constantly evolving and never static as supply and demand changes. So despite your comments about a big list, trying to introduce "a list" is naturally going to affect the supply. It's simple economics. Supply will increase as a result of more people depositing these specific weeks. Demand really won't have changed because you don't really care about that component - you only care about the TPUs RCI has given you. As a result the trade power of those resorts that have seen an influx of inventory goes down.

Because your list is static, it's only a matter of time before this happens - as evidenced by Greg's example of SA weeks. Additionally, since you don't know when or how often RCI will make this adjustment (because they can say it's constantly evolving), you'd have to constantly update this list and with no idea if it is making an impact.

You want proof examples of RCI making changes? Go back and search for threads when this new TPU system got introduced and how many complaints there were about RCI changing trade power across the board. Do the same for posts around May 28, 2010 when RCI did a trade power adjustment again. Those are examples of across the board changes, let alone resort specific.

You were so proud of yourself trying to come back with a rebuttal to Greg's post about SA weeks. I applaud your enthusiasm in your new chosen hobby; we all have it to some degree. However, take a moment and actually absorb the information as opposed to just finding out "what's wrong about everyone else's posts". This will be my only post on this issue.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

RCI's history of action is to read boards like TS4Ms and TUG and then close the 'loopholes" that people have discovered.

The term loophole keeps coming up...I'm not looking for a loophole all i'm looking for is a clear and concise LIST, there's no dark intent or evil premise behind what i'm trying to do...nothing more nothing less, i'm not trying to scam the system or get around the rules...the list will better help us Understand the rules and comply with them to the best advantage of RCI AND US...its a win/win

I know YOU do not understand that posting information like this will result in RCI devaluing/lowering/taking away the amount of points given for a resort/unit/week deposit value TPU but most people here that have had dealings with RCI do know/understand this BIG TIME.

I don't understand why RCI would change a system because people were starting to learn and understand that system...Can you explain that? From a business prospective its makes sense that they would be HAPPY that people were working to understand it...it would show interest and allow growth..When fully understood and with people having the ability to explain TPU values...more people would be inducted and become customers, increasing profits

RCI's history of action is to read boards like TS4Ms and TUG and then close the 'loopholes" that people have discovered

Do alot of people that Post on Tug also post here? I tend to intentionally show different sides of my personality on different forums so that i'm not hated everywhere or loved everywhere...i've decided NOT to push this topic on TUG for a very good reason, because i don't want to be 'that guy' over there, i care about TUG...Can we leave what happens here, here and what happens on TUG at TUG or are you guys unable to seperate the wheat from the chaff?

[logan115 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close logan115]

Do alot of people that Post on Tug also post here? I tend to intentionally show different sides of my personality on different forums so that i'm not hated everywhere or loved everywhere...i've decided NOT to push this topic on TUG for a very good reason, because i don't want to be 'that guy' over there, i care about TUG...Can we leave what happens here, here and what happens on TUG at TUG or are you guys unable to seperate the wheat from the chaff?

WOW !

So you don't want to be "that guy" over there, but you're ok with being "that guy" over here ? You care about TUG, but not about TS4MS ?

And over here is where you're asking for the information to find your Holy Grail ? Something doesn't add up.

This is just nuts. I don't think I've ever seen someone say "I don't really care about you guys, just give me the answers that I'm looking for. Trust me, nothing bad could possibly happen from doing this." Ok, so maybe I've seen it, but they've never gotten what they were after.


Most people tend to be very consistent from board to board, having multiple "personalities" from board to board does not really instill a lot of confidence that your intentions really are what you say they are. Not saying that you have false intentions, but again, not really instilling confidence.

BTW - in terms of the information being easy to find and readily available to anyone, if you do a google search of "highest tpu lowest mf," the thread you started on TUG is the first thing that comes up.

I truly do hope that you find the perfect timeshare for your needs, and perhaps if you let people know what you vacation habits are and when/where you'd like to travel I'm sure they'll be happy to point you in the right direction. But I don't see it as being in anyone's best interest to try and complete and post the list you're trying to produce.

On a different level, imagine that you end up buying one of the top-valued resorts, and get 120 TPUs for $500. It then gets widely communicated about what a great deal it is. Next year, you deposit and only get 60 TPUs for the same $500 (because so many others have purchased and then deposited their units) - how would you feel ?

Good luck,

Chris

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

BTW - in terms of the information being easy to find and readily available to anyone, if you do a google search of "highest tpu lowest mf," the thread you started on TUG is the first thing that comes up.

Yup i gave up on that thread pretty quickly...people had strong opinions on it...and i didn't want to push my luck on TUG...

I truly do hope that you find the perfect timeshare for your needs, and perhaps if you let people know what you vacation habits are and when/where you'd like to travel I'm sure they'll be happy to point you in the right direction.

See thats the thing...i truely do have the best TS i can use right now..25 TPU to just deposit one side in RCI and i still have the other larger side i can use every year that fits me perfect...in a great location that i love..Plus as of right now, i only get 4 weeks(20 days actually) paid vacation at work...So with the one week at my home resort and 25 TPU's......My vacation days are pretty full

This list isn't about me getting Anything out of it...Its about learning about the RCI TPU system, its about understanding why one mountain ski week lock-off gets 105TPU and another only gets 80...or Why a Summer Beach Week gets 100 TPU while a Branson Week in the middle of spring also gets 100 TPU...Its all about the Analysis of the data...I've always had a love for numbers and raw data...taking a bunch of random graph points in and building a story from them is just exciting to me....i know i'm weird that way...but i love information and examining it to find out every little thing that can be learned from it(right now i'm comparing Deposit TPU's to Rental Prices on RCI to see if there is a base line they follow to come to each value)

Ok, so my first line lied...I do get something out of it....I get to play with data points and analyse everything to come to a conclusion that maybe no one has ever considered before

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For more than 10 years I have welcomed new input, but it's getting easier to spend less time here.



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[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

For more than 10 years I have welcomed new input, but it's getting easier to spend less time here.



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I believe that in a micro-economic situation, as in a small resort in a small vacation area, stuff said on the Internet can negatively effect the supply/demand balance of a resort. It did mine and I have the discussion with those within the resort and the exchange company to verify that.

I agree with this...thats why its so important get this list as large as possible BEFORE posting it publicly....as i've stated a few times...thank you for the bump though JLB, the list just added one more resort(That i need to verify before its added)

ETA: Wow thats an interesting thread...Seems the majority of people were forced NOT to share their trade power by those with the loudest mouth who didn't want to share with others....Good thing i'm not great at knowing when to back down from people with big mouths

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

With your Wyndham fix week. It can be 50 TPU or 40 TPU even if you try to get it max depends on if July 4th fall under it.

That is 20% or 25% difference depends on how you look at them.

TPU only reveal last year, it is not even 1 year yet. For all I know, the TPU in that week was actually reduced if I compared to my old deposit. And I have know RCI constantly change it. So, no there is no deposit you can find worth 110. But I also have other week that kept the same.

RCI can change TPU as they see fit and they don't need to account for that. To depend on an Exchange company to best help you run this as business maybe very hard. Because they like to destroy anyone that they believe are taking advantage of them, unless it is a big developer or management company.

Good luck.

Jya-Ning

[ace2000 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ace2000]

Do alot of people that Post on Tug also post here? I tend to intentionally show different sides of my personality on different forums so that i'm not hated everywhere or loved everywhere...i've decided NOT to push this topic on TUG for a very good reason, because i don't want to be 'that guy' over there, i care about TUG...Can we leave what happens here, here and what happens on TUG at TUG or are you guys unable to seperate the wheat from the chaff?

[ace2000 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ace2000]

Can we leave what happens here, here and what happens on TUG at TUG or are you guys unable to seperate the wheat from the chaff?

I'm a member of both TS4Ms and TUG, and I've got the same low opinion of you in both places... does that help to answer your question??? Only kidding... I think.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

I'm a member of both TS4Ms and TUG, and I've got the same low opinion of you in both places... does that help to answer your question???

Yah, but lucky for me...no one on either board really cares about your opinion

Just Kidding!