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So far I have yet to be thrilled with the whole crossover grid system. It often seems beneficial until you factor in the exchange fee. Especially on the less than 7 night stays. I am going for the cross section but need certain things to fall in line first. Definately not in any rush as I still have lots of time.
Which, BTW does anybody else find this odd? $199 for a "week" exchange, but only $149 for a "7" day exchange? Where I come from there are 7 days in a week!
Originally posted by chriskreYou can no longer make your own deposits to RCI with BG points. From my understanding you have to use the crossover grid and the corporate portal to book using your BG points in RCI now. It used to be that you could pick a week to deposit but they changed that last year. It's the same for me in Hilton, Wyndham and DVC. That's why it's good to have a portfolio of stuff to see what's cheapest, at least that's my opinion on the matter.Originally posted by chriskreYou could purchase a very small RCI points account, say a triennial unit in Grandview or Vacation Village with very low MF's of around $115 to $250 and get around 15K to 25K RCI points respectively. Once you own an RCI points account, you can deposit weeks at resorts that do NOT participate in the RCI points program (usually older resorts) and get RCi points for those weeks. RCI calls that PFD or points for deposit. There is a grid that will show you how many points you will get for your week. If your resort is a dual RCI points/weeks resort then you can NOT do this with that particular week. Here is the grid to see what you'd get and where.
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Originally posted by gandalf252002 View PostSo far I have yet to be thrilled with the whole crossover grid system. It often seems beneficial until you factor in the exchange fee. Especially on the less than 7 night stays. I am going for the cross section but need certain things to fall in line first. Definately not in any rush as I still have lots of time.
Which, BTW does anybody else find this odd? $199 for a "week" exchange, but only $149 for a "7" day exchange? Where I come from there are 7 days in a week!
This is exactly what I am looking for is a triennial but they do not look to be very common. Does this mean that if it is NOT a converted week to points then I will be in the TPU program? Does the same thing apply regarding depositing non-RCI units? Guess my thought processes is it might be beneficial to have one of both but that might be more then my budget will allow at this time.
RCI Points pays $124 a year instead of $89 like weeks so they let us exchange for a lower fee. It's also a sliding scale exchange fee so the fewer nights you book, the cheaper the exchange fee but then you get hit with housekeeping fees in some places.
Those 7500 points in the emidsouth video are talking about RCI points exchanges. In RCI points you can see all inventory without having a deposit high enough but in TPU's you have to have a week on deposit to do any shopping. A bit annoying if you ask me. How am I going to know what to buy if I can't see the price? Maybe they'll fix that in the future but I won't hold my breath waiting. Maybe with the next "enhancement".
Triennial units are not that common but they are there on ebay. You need to check the search description box to see them. They never put them in the title. Biennials are more plentiful. If you're going to buy something you might want to consider a biennial in weeks and points so you have access to both sides. With RCI points you get a free weeks account if you own a points week so you could compare and play with both sides and see what works best for each scenario.
I'm going to PM you something that might work for you.
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Originally posted by chriskre View PostThe crossover grids are no bargain for run of the mill low TPU timeshares but they are a good value for high TPU units. I guess you might be looking at off season stuff so it's probably more expensive than using TPu's or RCI points.
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Originally posted by gandalf252002 View PostHow did you know! I do see what you mean though about good value for high TPU units. I enquired about some DVC rentals and they wanted $2300 or more! YIKES. Knowing now what DVC owners can be paying in MF's and the point values that is OUTRAGEOUS. Especially when I can get the same thing using points and exchange for around $1200. Might not get my exact week but hey, for $1000 who cares!
Using the crossover grids tends to be more expensive with one of the points units that I which is Hilton, and then it is actually cheaper with Wyndham points in off season because they adjust for seasonality.
Hilton doesn't seem to adjust Florida for seasonality. They consider it all red weeks so it's no bargain for DVC but my Wyndham account is actually pretty good for doing a DVC exchange in the off season.
Surprisingly I would end up paying around $1350 after all is said and done with Hilton for a 2 bedroom in DVC but in Wyndham it would be much less like $950. Same week, different points systems and rules. Still way less either way than booking direct with Disney and if I only had one way to get it then it wouldn't really matter. I'd probably use whatever I had available to me unless I wanted to go every year, then it's probably worth buying another option to use directly in RCI.
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The rentals I was looking at were not even in RCI, but on MouseOwners, VacationTimeShareRentals, and MyResortNetwork. Although I think the same would apply if I tried to rent through RCI.
In any case, after after Karen had a recent conversation with her frient, it sounds like she may actually own DVC herself. As she knows I have become somewhat verse in TS speak now, she wants to discuss with me her options about renting etc. Might just get a good deal taking a year off her hands for MF's only!
Originally posted by chriskreThe rentals with RCI for DVC are insane. You might as well book it direct for the prices they are charging. I wonder how many people even bother booking those units. I doubt they sell many.
Surprisingly I would end up paying around $1350 after all is said and done with Hilton for a 2 bedroom in DVC but in Wyndham it would be much less like $950. Same week, different points systems and rules. Still way less either way than booking direct with Disney and if I only had one way to get it then it wouldn't really matter. I'd probably use whatever I had available to me unless I wanted to go every year, then it's probably worth buying another option to use directly in RCI.
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Originally posted by gandalf252002Might just get a good deal taking a year off her hands for MF's only!RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Originally posted by gandalf252002The rentals I was looking at were not even in RCI, but on MouseOwners, VacationTimeShareRentals, and MyResortNetwork. Although I think the same would apply if I tried to rent through RCI.
In any case, after after Karen had a recent conversation with her frient, it sounds like she may actually own DVC herself. As she knows I have become somewhat verse in TS speak now, she wants to discuss with me her options about renting etc. Might just get a good deal taking a year off her hands for MF's only!
I'm glad you found a direct exchange. I did a direct exchange with a BG owner last year and it worked out great for both him and I. I got Hershey and he got Animal Kingdom SV. I wish I owned more points, I'd do it more often.
Originally posted by bnoble View PostRCI is likely to be more expensive. They are basically giving you the same price you'd get renting from Disney (they are acting as a rental agent).
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Any RCI member can access Disney rentals under Vacation Offers. They have it set up so that it cannot be linked to.
They are not inexpensive, most over $2K a week.RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Well, what I have experienced so far is that it is like any other market.
There are good locations, times of years. There are also ups and downs as well in the markets. I am just now getting the lucky side of it!
I am sure there was a time, where you were getting MORE than your MF's as I know there are people stilld doing this on this board. I do not believe this is "Karma", because I do not thing you did anything wrong getting more than your MF's.
However now the people who were paying you more than the market for your properties are now paying less. It really, is no different than playing the stock market. Educated guessing and any number of things can make us wrong at any given time.
Originally posted by JLBSee, you think that's a great deal and I'd like to get that much.
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