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[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

Remember all the season definition is meaningless, how the customer demand is usually better than season.

Quote from RCI disclosure

There were 1,813,281 total units of inventory deposited more than sixty (60) days in advance of the starting date of the deposited Vacation Time.

There were 683,715 total Exchanges in the RCI Weeks Exchange Program completed more than sixty (60) days prior to the starting date of the deposited Vacation Time.

Forget which year is it, but once in a while RCI will tell how many exchanges it actually did. And how many deposit and exchange it fullfilled. And I believe is is much higher than 40% ratio. (683,715/1,813,281) . It is more like 75%

This data does not tell you how many days the inventories actually in rental pools, how many days it is in exchange pool. In theory, RCI can put anything in rental pool, and only show like 1/3 to exchange pool, or to the one that has on-going search, or dump the unrented inventory back to system at certain day.

Quote from RCI disclosure

In any case where the Trading Power value could not be retrieved, the Deposits were applied in a uniform 1/3 manner to each of the High, Medium, and Low TP groups

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This is very interesting statement.

If it's in a city that has no TS's I think it's an equitable trade. I'd take a hotel room in a nice Hyatt in Boston or NYC in exchange for a 2 bedroom in Orlando.

If you look at RCI exchange to deposit ratio compare to member exchange to deposit ratio and keep in mind that the season may not be right, this is what you will get (remember the condition, this is not total exchanged number)

Deposit at 60+ and exchange happen at 60 day +
RCI total exchange to Deposit - 27%
member total exchange to deposit - 42%

For High Season Deposit
RCI 36%
Owner 57%

For Medium Season
RCI 30%
Owner 44%

For Low season
RCI 14%
Owner 19%

If you look at the # of unit get rented or other used compare to total deposit, it is about 40% at high season. If you assume the deposit number does not including the rented, it still is 28%

If you look at the take out ratio compare to the RCI deposit ration
at high season RCI take out about 107,129 units for all 242,132 unit for rent, or 44% compare to their deposit 187,708 unit over 551,225 unit, which is 34.05%. However, if you just look at the number base, RCI show about 2 to 1 ratio (they deposit 2 unit andtake out 1 unit). They either need to promote these deposit better, or keep them more consistence (probably harder). Or find some way to attract more people to take them.

I don't excpect a detail description down to the location level. Just a quick glance. Since the data apprently is not very completed.

At least the data is more open, so have to give them this credit. Or should we give credit to the court or the original fighter?

Just try to work within the system, and if it can not, walk out maybe the best solution.

Jya-Ning

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

I wonder how many of the units RCI has added are non-TS, hotel inventory that they have acquired at discount? More and more of that inventory is cropping up. How is that equitable substitution?

Most of that hotel inventory is from hotels Wyndham owns, so it is likely what they expect to be excess inventory there.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

I also suspect that used as a carrot for the exchanger as well as deposits. ie. It will cost you far less in a lot of instances to get that same unit for summer 2013 as it would summer 2012.

Not always. I've seen it go exactly the other way, as well. For example, P-Week 2012 is less than P-Week 2013 at MCO by about 10-15% or so.

It is in the grand scheme of things the only sense I have been able to apply.

I think there's a mixture of things going on. In very broad strokes, the values seem to fit my expectations of supply/demand. Summer interior is less than summer coastal. Both are more than fall/spring more or less anywhere. Holiday weeks are generally higher than non-holiday. And so on. There are certainly specific instances where things make much less sense---e.g. the heavy finger on the DVC floor and the MC values---but they seem to be relatively uncommon.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Not always. I've seen it go exactly the other way, as well. For example, P-Week 2012 is less than P-Week 2013 at MCO by about 10-15% or so.


I think there's a mixture of things going on. In very broad strokes, the values seem to fit my expectations of supply/demand. Summer interior is less than summer coastal. Both are more than fall/spring more or less anywhere. Holiday weeks are generally higher than non-holiday. And so on. There are certainly specific instances where things make much less sense---e.g. the heavy finger on the DVC floor and the MC values---but they seem to be relatively uncommon.

Before the numbers were ever published, my areas to look at how these numbers tracked supply and demand were pretty well set - comparing areas where availibility was rare in the Caribbean, Europe, and hardest to get east coast areas with areas with a big oversupply. In reviewing the numbers, it was clear that RCI had stood supply and demand on their head. Many of the rare areas were clearly underpointed while areas of oversupply were overpointed.

One clear indicator is to look at whether an area typically is given more points lite for deposit than it takes to trade into it, a clear sign of being overpointed, or the reverse, which is a clear sign of being underpointed. The numbers needed for a trade are the real market-set numbers while those awarded for deposit are numbers adjusted with RCI's thumb on the scales.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I wonder how many of the units RCI has added are non-TS, hotel inventory that they have acquired at discount? More and more of that inventory is cropping up. How is that equitable substitution?

I give up . . . how many?

Hey, let's file a classaction lawsuit.