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  • This Is Typical

    I have met 100's, no 1000's of RCI members, and the typical comment I hear is "I can never get anything."

    Most TS owners/RCI members are far, far, far below the understanding level of the regulars here, and on other timeshare forums. They are at different levels of understanding, but I am glazed and amazed at how many are still at the level we were at 20 years ago:

    Call a guide and see what's available.

    I just worked with yet-another of these TS owners recently. Our conversation began with "How do you get what you get, cuz nothing's ever available when I call?"

    She is a Weeks member and did not even know Weeks is now a point system. When she asked when that happened, and I said, "November 16, 2010," she just laughed.

    She has an account online, she said, but did not have any idea what her weeks are worth. When I checked using the Deposit Calculator, they are worth what our best weeks are now worth, not enough to get what she (or we) normally want.

    (I digress, but when you see that I have an infraction, that is from trying to help her, and I did not realize what I was doing was wrong, until the little group that meets in the back room here decided it was."

    Which still does not answer the question, "How do I get what I get?"

    So, after all these years, and all the tremendous, well-received, enhancements to their program, some (in my experience many) RCI members are no more informed than calling a Guide to see what's available, resting their timeshare success/failure in the hands of someone who may have been put to work last week, or today.

    At the next level of understanding is those who know how to deposit and use Ongoing Searches, but still seem to be frustrated by the days and days and days of hearing nothing, except for an occasional notice that nothing has been matched, but the search will continue . . . broaden your parameters, etc.

    They do not know enough to know why they can't get anything, or what is available that they can't get.

    Next are those who know to search online themselves, with or without on Ongoing Search in place, and know they can see all that is available (so we are told) if they want to, so they can see why they can't get what they want.

    Then there are those at what I consider the highest level of understanding and dedication, who have learned that the more they search online themselves, the more likely thay are to get what they want. They understand that RCI computers, or programmers, or whoever makes decisions, are quirky. Many of us learned not long after online searching began in 1997 that a quick search each day for a specific desired target has the best chance of eventually finding it.

    Over the last 12 years, I would guess that it has taken me at least 200 days of searching to get each exchange that we want. I can't remember that any of our exchanges the last ten years have been found through Ongoing Searches, but maybe one or two has.

    Your mileage may vary and objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.

    RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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    So what did you recommend to your friend? How far off was her number from what she was looking for? Maybe she should combine 2 years to try to get what she is looking for and then look for something off season or last minute with the left overs. Yes it's more than the past but it's better than pulling a 0 for several years in a row.

    Or maybe she needs to try to give her week away or check with a different exchange company.

    I know people who complain the same way but don't do anything different from the year before when they also complained. What I am amazed at is that they continue to deposit with RCI. If you are going to pay your MF and end up with no trip, you might at least save on the RCI membership costs.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SallyHoover View Post
      So what did you recommend to your friend? How far off was her number from what she was looking for? Maybe she should combine 2 years to try to get what she is looking for and then look for something off season or last minute with the left overs. Yes it's more than the past but it's better than pulling a 0 for several years in a row.

      Or maybe she needs to try to give her week away or check with a different exchange company.

      I know people who complain the same way but don't do anything different from the year before when they also complained. What I am amazed at is that they continue to deposit with RCI. If you are going to pay your MF and end up with no trip, you might at least save on the RCI membership costs.
      yes

      RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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      • #4
        I could not agree more. I also check every day. Day after day there is nothing, and then some day when you least expect it, there it is at a great price (in TPU's). I almost always get what I want, or better, eventually. Some trades have been fundamentally irrational in terms of benefit received.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Will View Post
          I could not agree more. I also check every day. Day after day there is nothing, and then some day when you least expect it, there it is at a great price (in TPU's). I almost always get what I want, or better, eventually. Some trades have been fundamentally irrational in terms of benefit received.
          Oops, now the cat's out of the bag.

          I'm also quite amazed that your two, very rare posts were used to agree with me.

          I'm not used to that.

          RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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          • #6
            Darn, I thought everything here was confidential.

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            • #7
              Here's another. Not sure if I'm at the top or bottom of the food chain, but I get what I want using manual searches only.
              I cringe whenever I see those repeated posts which say, "...what's online is only leftovers."

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              • #8
                Well, there are some things that just never make it online, period, like Allen House or any resort in London. Some resorts in southern England for summer are the same way. Others are quite rare like Venice or summer French Riviera or any time on St.John in the USVI. For the weeks that rarely or never appear online, RCI plays a shell game where they can jump up the points lite required to whatever number they want, and that aspect is the polar opposite of transparency.

                The biggest factor impacting availibility of good weeks is IMHO RCI's rental to the public program. I have been attending welcome meetings at timeshares more since some of these issues have come to the fore. What I hear is longtime timesharers who have figured out that it is a lot harder to get good exchanges than it used to be. Many of them have never heard about RCI's rentals and when they hear they are livid. Some have already figured out that the way out of the RCI mousetrap is the independents. I have never had to explain DAE to the others as some Brit always beats me to it.

                On the other hand, when I have attended such meetings at an II affiliated resort, I never hear complaints about the seriious decline of the exchange system from what it used to be. It is as different as night and day.

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