What Will An Average Trader Get?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Since 11/16/10, those here have generally concluded that an average trader gets somewhere in the area of 18 TPUs.

The following was recently posted:

I JUST DID SOMETHING! Now i see all countries 143,895 out of a total of 172,090 for the same time frame above

1-10 = 82,794
11-14 = 31,594
15-18 = 29,507
19-23 = 18,567
24-32 = 8,035
33+ = 1,585

If our assumption is correct (& when have we'all ever been incorrect ), an average trader can get 83% of the deposits in the Spacebank.

Well, there's something wrong with that. Something seriously wrong, I believe. An average trader should get around half the deposits, not just about all of them.

What do y'all make of it?

I'll withhold my thoughts for now.

[Presley Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Presley]

All my online friends who use RCI say that if you want to get anything good you need around 30TP.

In a webinar earlier this week, the RCI rep said that most places need 17-20TPs and we (Grand Pacific owners) were so lucky because we could have 22TP (she used that as an example) and we could get more than one week back for our one week in. I can't imagine where that would be.

I can't even begin to figure out why an average trader would get over 80%.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I can't even begin to figure out why an average trader would get over 80%.

Ah, c'mon. Use that gray matter. Venture a guess.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

In a webinar earlier this week, the RCI rep said that most places need 17-20TPs

What do the facts say about that, since 14 will get 2/3 of them?

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Most of the good stuff never reachs the online spacebanks in any exchange system. It gets taken first by ongoing searchs. Since what is online for any exchange company is going to be heavily tilted to the low end, your percentage may be about what one should expect as to online availibility.

[Kentonmag Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kentonmag]

Contrary to what I may have said earlier, I find this a very interesting posting. What was the time of year for the posting figures, and I also guess a large amount of the availability in the 1 - 10 range was for All Inclusives in the Mexico/Dominican region?
If it was possible to take the A.I's out of the numbers then gettting a more honest reflection of the totals, in percentage terms, might tell a much different story.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

Contrary to what I may have said earlier, I find this a very interesting posting. What was the time of year for the posting figures, and I also guess a large amount of the availability in the 1 - 10 range was for All Inclusives in the Mexico/Dominican region?
If it was possible to take the A.I's out of the numbers then gettting a more honest reflection of the totals, in percentage terms, might tell a much different story.

All inclusive Not Required Selected

Total Avaliable 138,361 (2/2012-2/2014) (173,221 before i selected that)

1-10 = 52,503
11-14 = 29,643
15-18 = 28,584
19-23 = 18,006
24-32 = 8,062
33+ = 1,563

Caroline is right though, this doesn't account for the "On Going Searches" i hate those things...

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

All inclusive Not Required Selected

Total Avaliable 138,361 (2/2012-2/2014) (173,221 before i selected that)

1-10 = 52,503
11-14 = 29,643
15-18 = 28,584
19-23 = 18,006
24-32 = 8,062
33+ = 1,563

Caroline is right though, this doesn't account for the "On Going Searches" i hate those things...

An average trader, 18, still gets 80% of the deposits.

As to C's contention, what difference would it make as to how many TPUs it takes to get something whether it is through an onging search or online? The good stuff goes to Ongoing Searches only if the search is done with enough TPU's to get it.

I still have my ideas as to why an average trader gets so much of the inventory, but I'll hold off.

[Presley Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Presley]

They sleep with the boss?

Can they pay for extra power?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

BTW, we've gone back and forth about online v. ongoing search for years. Of our 116 exchanges, the best resorts, what is now way above 18s, were obtained online.

All those I have compared with over the years say the same thing, that good stuff has always been available online. It does not all go to ongoing searches.

The real issue any more is whether good stuff is available at all.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

An average trader, 18, still gets 80% of the deposits.

As to C's contention, what difference would it make as to how many TPUs it takes to get something whether it is through an onging search or online? The good stuff goes to Ongoing Searches only if the search is done with enough TPU's to get it.

I still have my ideas as to why an average trader gets so much of the inventory, but I'll hold off.

I don't agree with your original assumption if an "Average Trader" was 18, then when searching by it, it would be get close to 50% of the availability...when looking at the stats above, it looks to me like an average trader is somewhere between 11-14...Maybe the reason you guys are adjusting up isn't because of average, but because of an assumption of quality...This goes back to the fact that 80% of TS's should be immediately closed..when correcting for the, lack of a better word, Crap TS's, 18 maybe more what you guys want...but no math brings it out to "Average"

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

A compilation of many of us here, studying what was available to study, concluded that an average TPU value was/is, 18-ish . . . not something I assumed.

Evidence is strong that what is in the Spacebank is well below that, and that does not undo our original.

What it does do is provide evidence of something many of us have been saying for many years.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

A compilation of many of us here, studying what was available to study, concluded that an average TPU value was/is, 18-ish . . . not something I assumed.

Evidence is strong that what is in the Spacebank is well below that, and that does not undo our original.

What it does do is provide evidence of something many of us have been saying for many years.

I'd like to see some evidence that 18 TPU's is 'an average TPU value', all the evidence seems to point to that being incorrect...it appears to me, from what i've read on previous threads that that number was basically just pulled out of thin air, not based on anything concrete or even any mathematical formula

Did you guys just pick a resort that IN YOUR OPINION was average and said that resorts value is now the Average TPU? Or is it based on an Average TPU of users here? Because it's obvious users here aren't the average RCI users, you'd be amazing how many Lockoffs i see deposited as both sides on RCI, no one here would do that!

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Anothere surprising figure . . . 38% are under 10.
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I played a little with the deposit calculator, a variety of resorts, areas, time of year, etc., and it's hard to find anything as low as 18.

I had to use own that we own.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I think the explanation for why there are so few better resorts/weeks in the SpaceBank is simple, and something those of us who have searched daily for years have been saying, me since 2004.

The reason there are so few better resorts/weeks in the Spacebank is because many owners of them no longer give them to RCI.

It does not matter that they might be able to get three or four crappy resorts for their one deposit. They are not interested in trading down, even in quantity.

&, if they do not want to use their better resort/week, they can get much better value elsewhere.

JMHO