What Will An Average Trader Get?

[Presley Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Presley]

It does not matter that they might be able to get three or four crappy resorts for their one deposit. They are not interested in trading down, even in quantity.

&, if they do not want to use their better resort/week, they can get much better value elsewhere.

JMHO

That makes sense to me. I don't like to trade my resorts, that I bought because I like them, for a supply of crappy places. I'd rather stay home.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Basing an average on what is in the spacebank would not be accurate for any exchange company, because with ALL exchange companies, the best stuff gets taken by ongoing exchange requests and never hits the spacebank. You will never see London in the spacebank, for example, and rarely see much southern England except a bit of Cornwall. Similarly French Riviera in the summer is quite rare in the spacebank, as is warm weather Charleston or Savannah or St. John at any time of the year.

Then, of course, there is all the good exchange deposit inventory that RCI immediately diverts to its rental pool, and again, never hits the spacebank.

I'd like to see some evidence that 18 TPU's is 'an average TPU value', all the evidence seems to point to that being incorrect...it appears to me, from what i've read on previous threads that that number was basically just pulled out of thin air, not based on anything concrete or even any mathematical formula

Did you guys just pick a resort that IN YOUR OPINION was average and said that resorts value is now the Average TPU? Or is it based on an Average TPU of users here? Because it's obvious users here aren't the average RCI users, you'd be amazing how many Lockoffs i see deposited as both sides on RCI, no one here would do that!

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

the best stuff gets taken by ongoing exchange requests and never hits the spacebank. You will never see London in the spacebank, for example, and rarely see much southern England except a bit of Cornwall. Similarly French Riviera in the summer is quite rare in the spacebank, as is warm weather Charleston or Savannah or St. John at any time of the year.

Man you have a strange opinion of what is the best stuff

[slip Contributor - Bronze Find all posts View Profile Close slip]

Where are the stats that say all the good stuff goes to ongoing searches?
I've heard this time and time again but I've heard of people getting good stuff
Online also by checking all through the day. Then I've heard people put in an
Ongoing search and then find what they are looking for online. I don't think
There are any numbers to back up either point.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Man you have a strange opinion of what is the best stuff

It is not personal opinion but rather supply and demand in the system.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Where are the stats that say all the good stuff goes to ongoing searches?
I've heard this time and time again but I've heard of people getting good stuff
Online also by checking all through the day. Then I've heard people put in an
Ongoing search and then find what they are looking for online. I don't think
There are any numbers to back up either point.

Some things you simply never see online, and those are the places that are the hardest trades. London or St. John, USVI are good examples. All trades there are to ongoing searches.

Now, there are some good places to go that do have lots of timeshare. Sint Maarten is an example. Getting a trade to Sint Maarten is still ''good stuff'' in that it is a great vacation experience but not a difficult trade. You still have to work at it a bit for the prime winter season, but your odds are a heck of a lot better than St. John. And as to vacation experience, if it were just personal preference, Sint Maarten would beat St. John hands down.

Is the RCI search process screwed up where sometimes it does not work? Apparently, as there are repeated reports of that.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Yes, those of us who have been searching daily for many years were able to get the better resorts in the hardest timeframes online, eventually, I probably averaged 100 searches, maybe more, for each exchange we got.

As far as the good stuff not being deposited any more, that has been generally agreed upon among longtime RCI members here and on another Internet forum, confirmed by an inside source. That's going back two or three years, and there's no indication whatsoever that that has changed.

More like it has been confirmed by disclosure, if you can trust disclosure.

&, why would you deposit a great week when there are better things to do with it, besides getting crappy exchange(s). If it is going to be rented out, just eliminate RCI and pocket the $$$ they make doing it.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

That is exactly why SFX got my southern England summer week. With SFX, I got a 2BR shoulder season week in London in exchange, certainly a fair trade. While this week used to be able to pull Paris, Venice, St. Lucia, Bermuda, Charleston, etc. in high season with RCI, since the downgrade to Points Lite, it no longer does, so why would I ever want to give it to RCI again?

Yes, those of us who have been searching daily for many years were able to get the better resorts in the hardest timeframes online, eventually, I probably averaged 100 searches, maybe more, for each exchange we got.

As far as the good stuff not being deposited any more, that has been generally agreed upon among longtime RCI members here and on another Internet forum, confirmed by an inside source. That's going back two or three years, and there's no indication whatsoever that that has changed.

More like it has been confirmed by disclosure, if you can trust disclosure.

&, why would you deposit a great week when there are better things to do with it, besides getting crappy exchange(s). If is going to be rented out, just eliminate RCI and pocket the $$$ they make doing it.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

That is exactly why SFX got my southern England summer week. With SFX, I got a 2BR shoulder season week in London in exchange, certainly a fair trade. While this week used to be able to pull Paris, Venice, St. Lucia, Bermuda, Charleston, etc. in high season with RCI, since the downgrade to Points Lite, it no longer does, so why would I ever want to give it to RCI again?

The new folks don't understand that sentiment, but that's OK. They don't feel bad about not having what they've never had.

It's a shame, though, when folks don't appreciate history, and that what folks have today would not be there without those who came before. I'm not too old to recall that I, perhaps, did not have that appreciation at one time. I believe it comes with age, or maturity, or whatever.

Anyway, I believe those who believe quality timeshare owners are getting a great deal because they can trade a great resort/timeframe for two or three lesser ones don't understand why those folks bought at great resorts. Maybe some don't mind trading down, but in my 20 years, I've never met them.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

It's a shame, though, when folks don't appreciate history, and that what folks have today would not be there without those who came before.

Not that any of us would want to take credit for what is there now . . . What I was meaning is that without the $$$ of those who have come before those who are here now, those who are here now would not have had the opportunity to be here.

. . . much like prior generations of Americans paid the price for us to be here, sorta.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

The real problem in the current system is RCI's arbitrary vauations in Points Lite which often stand the principles of supply and demand on their head. They put their thumbs on the scales to increase the arbitrary value of weeks of which there is always a glut of in the system, but at the same time undervalue weeks which are very hard to find in the system. My GC resort in southern England, for example, almost never appears online in warm season, and only occaisionally in cold season, so it has a very strong supply / demand curve, yet its trading power was whacked for no good reason in Points Lite. Back in ''real Weeks'', it used to significantly outtrade my summer OBX week, but under the Points Lite regime is only given 2/3 the trading power of the OBX week. The clearly observable supply / demand situation has not changed, just RCI's arbitrary assignment of value. Management at the resort tell me that just about all deposits, except occaisional deep off season weeks, with either RCI or DAE get taken immediately when depositied.