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RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Originally posted by Carolinian View PostThat is part of RCI's shell game. The better weeks do not usually make it online, and RCI is not likely going to let you trade in for the same number of points some poor sap may have gotten when the deposited it. One of the differences between RCI Points and its newer Points Lite (aka ''Weeks'') is that in regular points they give you the values of everything and the points given for deposit are the same number as those required for exchange into the same week.
BTW, my own US summer beach week is rented for a nice profit. Why would I even consider playing RCI roulette with it when it rents nicely? Unfortunately, SFX does not take that resort, but with rentals I have a great alternative to RCI.
Do you use a service to rent your week, or advertise it yourself?
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Originally posted by JLBI was thinking how it's funny what the enhancements have done.
It's taken our focus off all the traditional problems associated with timesharing, so that now the main topic is how to get rid of them.
So I take it RCI is not worth it? Does anyone have any experience with OLCC's Global Acess/ Global Choice. As an HICV member, I am supposed to be able to convert my non-OLCC weeks interval to HICV Points. Anyone ever do this?
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Originally posted by JLBnew here, huh!?
starting to feel like I need a phd to understand all this. I get things change, but it could be so much simpler and straightforward.
here's what I've learned
1. RCI skims desirable weeks to rent reducing available pool and driving up TP required for a resort since that is partially determined by supply/demand (which renting reduces supply)
2. net effect of new changes is that we can't trade for the same resorts we have for years
3. need a supercomputer to figure out the system
4. none of the other providers are much better, gotta choose between dodgy practices or reduced inventory
5. I'm not alone, although ymmv
6. still have a lot to learn
did I miss anything?
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Originally posted by raycinyep. why do you think I joined?
starting to feel like I need a phd to understand all this. I get things change, but it could be so much simpler and straightforward.
here's what I've learned
1. RCI skims desirable weeks to rent reducing available pool and driving up TP required for a resort since that is partially determined by supply/demand (which renting reduces supply)
2. net effect of new changes is that we can't trade for the same resorts we have for years
3. need a supercomputer to figure out the system
4. none of the other providers are much better, gotta choose between dodgy practices or reduced inventory
5. I'm not alone, although ymmv
6. still have a lot to learn
did I miss anything?
The guys that are complaining the most now are the ones that were scamming RCI in the past by using low value, low demand weeks to trade into some of the best weeks available....Now that RCI has corrected that mistake, they want everyone to say 'How dare RCI not let your scam continue'
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I use the RCI Deposit Calulator, when it works and if the value isn't what I want, then I look at the smaller independent exchange companies to deposit my week.
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What are you talking About?.......Scamming?
RCI is the scammer not the RCI members.
Please tell what dept at RCI you work for?
Walt
Originally posted by Ridewithme38 View PostYes, you missed an important point....Unless you were already a member of RCI 15-100yrs ago, you won't notice any of these things and RCI even with the 'changes' it is so far above and beyond any other exchange company, that there is no reason to look anywhere else
The guys that are complaining the most now are the ones that were scamming RCI in the past by using low value, low demand weeks to trade into some of the best weeks available....Now that RCI has corrected that mistake, they want everyone to say 'How dare RCI not let your scam continue'
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Originally posted by tennisWalt View PostRCI is the scammer not the RCI members.
Please tell what dept at RCI you work for?
Walt
Buying South African TS's because even though they have low demand and low MF's, they have High trade power is a scam...Expecting to trade a week two, White/Blue week for a summer prime, that's a bit of a scam....UK weeks in the middle of nowhere, expecting high Level Exchanges, Scam...These guys were taking advantage of mistakes RCI had made in the system...now that RCI has corrected the mistakes they want to spread venom about the whole system....That's just ridiculous...
They've got to learn to except that they're little loophole trades weren't going to last, eventually RCI would catch on to how unfair and uneven the trades were....
I don't work for RCI, BUT BECAUSE OF GUYS LIKE THESE, Trading in garbage weeks and taking the good stuff, RCI for a long long time only had Garbage left, i hope this correcting that fixed RCI's mistake also fixes that
**RANT OFF**
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Originally posted by raycinyep. why do you think I joined?
starting to feel like I need a phd to understand all this. I get things change, but it could be so much simpler and straightforward.
here's what I've learned
1. RCI skims desirable weeks to rent reducing available pool and driving up TP required for a resort since that is partially determined by supply/demand (which renting reduces supply)
2. net effect of new changes is that we can't trade for the same resorts we have for years
3. need a supercomputer to figure out the system
4. none of the other providers are much better, gotta choose between dodgy practices or reduced inventory
5. I'm not alone, although ymmv
6. still have a lot to learn
did I miss anything?RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Walt's back.
I figured he fell through the ice.
RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Need I Say More?
Scamming - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
scammed scam·ming
Definition of SCAM
transitive verb
1: deceive, defraud
2: to obtain (as money) by a scam
— scam·mer noun
Examples of SCAM
The company scammed hundreds of people out of their life savings.
I could tell they were scamming you and charging too much.
They scammed a lot of money from unwary customers.
Does this sound like the RCI membership is doing the scamming or is RCI the scammer?
The Company or Person getting the money is the only one that can be the Scammer!
Walt
Originally posted by Ridewithme38 View PostYes, you missed an important point....Unless you were already a member of RCI 15-100yrs ago, you won't notice any of these things and RCI even with the 'changes' it is so far above and beyond any other exchange company, that there is no reason to look anywhere else
The guys that are complaining the most now are the ones that were scamming RCI in the past by using low value, low demand weeks to trade into some of the best weeks available....Now that RCI has corrected that mistake, they want everyone to say 'How dare RCI not let your scam continue'
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Originally posted by tennisWaltOur Average highRCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Chasing trading power is like chasing unicorns.... a total waste of time.
People should only purchase timeshares they know they can rent for a great return on invested capital. If you do that and your unit gets great trading power is some systems, consider that gravy.
The only market based trading system is the rental market. Everything else is a fraud.
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People should purchase what they want to purchase, or not purchase, for what they want to do, after due diligence.
Say, as opposed to what a stranger tells them they ought to do.RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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