How Does Your Trade Value Compare?

[raycin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close raycin]

here is my cost structure:

about $700/yr for maint fees and (1) exchange fee
yields TP of 16
so about $44/TPU

given some of the new 5 TPU value trades in Pagosa Springs, CO, that would mean about $220 cost using TPUs, but it can be rented for $269.

am I missing anything here? is this a good way to look at it?

Thanks.

[tennisWalt Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tennisWalt]

I Think This Post Tells It Like It Is?

If you go back to my first post, you will see my example. I'm sure that other Forum members could give like examples showing how RCI has lowered the Trade Value of their weeks.

Walt

PS. Has anyone have an exampe showing that RCI increased their RCI weeks Trade Value?

RCI's lying does not help the situation. It only makes them look like bigger scoundrels.

They admitted in the class action that they take exchange deposits that are simply that with nothing else involved and put them into the rental pool. We used to have an RCI employee, Bootleg, active here, and he posted that he could see that on his RCI computer; prime deposits not connected to PFD, cruises, or anything, put straight into the rental pool. Another RCI employee, Anon, who participated on a European site posted the same thing, and even posted screen shots from the RCI computer to show it. Also, some people have found their own week in the rental pool and know darn well that they deposited it for exchange and nothing else.

As to trading power, they have admitted a change in trading power for SA weeks to some SA owners. But any knowledgable timesharer knows what his week used to trade for, and when it does not do so now, then there is no other explanation than that they altered trading power. My summer UK weeks used to outtrade my summer OBX week, for example, and now they get about 2/3 the points lite of the OBX week. And this is a UK resort that is extremely hard to get on exchange. You almost never see anything availible online and when it is it is only deep offseason. Management says most deposits with any exchange company are taken immediately for ongoing searches. Yet it has had its trading power severely whacked. Again, RCI is lying through their teeth, and it makes them look like even bigger scoundrels.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

here is my cost structure:

about $700/yr for maint fees and (1) exchange fee
yields TP of 16
so about $44/TPU

given some of the new 5 TPU value trades in Pagosa Springs, CO, that would mean about $220 cost using TPUs, but it can be rented for $269.

am I missing anything here? is this a good way to look at it?

Thanks.

When you say it can be rented for $269, do you mean rented out or you could rent it?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

They told us that TP is being calculated the same as always, but that we can see it now.

B#!!$#(+

[raycin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close raycin]

When you say it can be rented for $269, do you mean rented out or you could rent it?

sorry for the confusion. it can be rented thru RCI right now for $269.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

sorry for the confusion. it can be rented thru RCI right now for $269.

I've posted several examples of that, where I am trying to rent something with a $625 fee and The Evil Empire has them for $200.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

I've posted several examples of that, where I am trying to rent something with a $625 fee and The Evil Empire has them for $200.

If you guys are talking about the internal RCI rentals, don't forget you have to be a Timeshare owner to see those rentals...i haven't seen much on their public rental site for that cheap

[SallyHoover Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SallyHoover]

Used selectively I still really like RCI but it doesn't mean you shouldn't shop around and Wyndham does rent out RCI inventory to non members for less sometimes.

Here's an example:
From RCI:

GALWAY BAY COTTAGES (#1685)
County Galway, Ireland
Home
2 Bedrooms 6 (6) Full Sun 01-Apr-2012 Sun 08-Apr-2012 Exchange Fee -OR- USD 503.99 15
2 Bedrooms 6 (6) Full Sun 22-Apr-2012 Sun 29-Apr-2012 Exchange Fee -OR- USD 503.99 21

Not bad for an extra vacation or tpu's for exchange- We all know the cancellation policy with extra vacations, no refunds after 24 hours same with exchanges unless you pay for additional insurance.

Now here is the same unit at Endless Vacations.
Galway Bay Cottages
2 bdrm (6/Full) Apr 01-Apr 08 (7)
$101*/night ($704.99*)
2 bdrm (6/Full) Apr 22-Apr 29 (7)
$101*/night ($704.99*)

A little higher but look at the cancelation policy

If a booking is cancelled three days or more prior to the check-in date, we will refund one hundred percent (100%) of the total rental amount.
If a booking is cancelled 2 days or less prior to the check-in date, no refund will be made for any part of the rental amount.
No refunds will be given for no-shows or early check-outs. The property is not authorized to make any exceptions.

and there is a box for promo codes. Lots of non timeshare folk apparently qualify for a 10% discount of the prices all the time but currently they are running a special that makes the discount 35%. Here is the price with the AARP discount code:

2 bedroom (6/Full)
Apr 22-Apr 29 (7 Nights)
$704.99
Booking Fee:
$0.00
Promotion Code: AARP Member Discount (8000000046)
- $246.75
Number of nights:7
Price/night:$65.46USD*
Total Price:$458.24USD*
Sub Total:$458.24
Taxes:$0.00
Grand Total:$458.24

So a non timeshare owner could get it for about $40 dheaper and have a much less stringent cancellation policy.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Anyone who believes the Evil Empire does not rent Spacebank Deposits to anyone they want, for whatever they can get, or takes into consideration what is best for it's owner/subscribers, has not been around long enough, or has something else affecting their perception.

That would have been true for the first 25 years, or so, but Spacebank Deposits have been rented to non-owners for less than an annual fee for a long time now, memory tells me close to ten years . . . as we all know, since Cendant bought out Ms. deHaan. Her motives would be hard to question:

http://www.christelhouse.org/

But the conscience of the company since then is . . .

Do I need to remind all that the current rules and policies, legally mandated, no longer are come this August (best as I can decipher the Settlement Agreement).

Is there anyone who believes that however unfair things are now, once the mandate has been lifted it won't get worse?

Anyone believe things will get better?

[Sheepdog Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Sheepdog]

Ehh

It is give and take. I guess we are satisfied for the most part. Middle of the road. 24 is the max for both weeks of tow different TS. We are just kind of getting on the ball with managing our TPUs. I guess if we want to go top end we will have to combine.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

B#!!$#(+

Translated, I think that means ''Horsehockey'' or something similar?

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

If you guys are talking about the internal RCI rentals, don't forget you have to be a Timeshare owner to see those rentals...i haven't seen much on their public rental site for that cheap

There are lots of RCI rental sites and prices vary. There have been examples given of non-member sites renting for less than the member sites, but it goes both ways. The non-member site gives you a better cancellation policy and saves you the RCI membership fee.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

I think the next big change will come when they merge Points and Points Lite into one points system. It makes no sense to keep running two. I think they are still working on how to do that, and it may be a few years until that happens, but when it does, I think it will be major and that there will be both winners and losers among members, probably more of the latter than the former.

Anyone who believes the Evil Empire does not rent Spacebank Deposits to anyone they want, for whatever they can get, or takes into consideration what is best for it's owner/subscribers, has not been around long enough, or has something else affecting their perception.

That would have been true for the first 25 years, or so, but Spacebank Deposits have been rented to non-owners for less than an annual fee for a long time now, memory tells me close to ten years . . . as we all know, since Cendant bought out Ms. deHaan. Her motives would be hard to question:

Christel House

But the conscience of the company since then is . . .

Do I need to remind all that the current rules and policies, legally mandated, no longer are come this August (best as I can decipher the Settlement Agreement).

Is there anyone who believes that however unfair things are now, once the mandate has been lifted it won't get worse?

Anyone believe things will get better?

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

I think the next big change will come when they merge Points and Points Lite into one points system. It makes no sense to keep running two. I think they are still working on how to do that, and it may be a few years until that happens, but when it does, I think it will be major and that there will be both winners and losers among members, probably more of the latter than the former.

Now i don't think that's a fair assumption, even with the many threads you have made on the two main TSing forums, its shown that there are more winners then losers with the current system...even those that have ended up behind with their previous ownerships are now able to see, with a simple 'deposit calculator' search how to BE winners....With the old system it was a matter of guessing and hoping, this new system is overall a big success and has been nothing but positive for those that are willing to 'change with the times'

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I think the next big change will come when they merge Points and Points Lite into one points system. It makes no sense to keep running two. I think they are still working on how to do that, and it may be a few years until that happens, but when it does, I think it will be major and that there will be both winners and losers among members, probably more of the latter than the former.

The only thing I can think of stopping them is that they made so much money charging people to switch to Points, so they can't just let people do it for free.

Until they decide they can.