Interesting Orlando Observation - Discussion welcome

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Test. test.

I tried to post some comparative searches, and my conclusions, which I shared by email yestersay, and got a message saying it would appear when a Moderator approves it.

I just posted on another board, Computers, with no problem.

Jim Please try again. We made some changes yesterday and this forum should not be under moderation. I think Frank fixed it while I was out at work. I don't see anything pending approval.

[djyamyam Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close djyamyam]

Now explain to me why weeks sees some deposits for St George's Club in Bermuda and Points sees different weeks but can't see the weeks deposits. We are talking April and July weeks for this year...

My tigers are holding units right now so I can't search for the April weeks.

Based on what I've been told is that inventory on dual weeks/points resorts is held separately. While there might be a specific date available on the Weeks side, I can't see it on the Points "standard reservation" side because it is not part of the points inventory. I also won't be able to see it using points to search weeks because RCI has a wall in the search feature while in my points account. The only way I'll be able to see it is in a weeks account.

Hope my explanation makes sense

[gjw007 Member Find all posts View Profile Close gjw007]

OLCC is only Weeks with RCI. They have gone to their own point system, but you have to buy-in.

I am surprised that there aren't more for the low to medium traders over the hot and humid summer. We were there the end of July one year and it was terrible.

OLCC is actually RCI Points now rather than RCI Weeks since the Global Access points convert into RCI Points at a 2:1 ratio. I have called RCI and have had the ability to directly book through RCI my Global Access points as RCI Points for RCI resorts. Of course, most deposits to RCI from OLCC are weeks as probably more than 90% of OLCC have remained weeks rather than convert to Global Access. I was told by a sales person that the $89 per year membership fee actually goes to RCI to pay for the RCI Points account with RCI. You know sales people, whether this is true or not is uncertain.

[grest Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close grest]

I just searched with a pretty good trader, got 26 resorts, with all kinds of Orange Lake, North Village, West Village, East Village, and River Island...this with a weeks unit, not points...weird!
Connie

[riverdees05 Platinum Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close riverdees05]

Thanks for the correction on OLCC.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Are you saying that none of the bajillion OLCC owners who have been/are RCI Weeks members no longer are, and no longer deposit their weeks to RCI Weeks?

Or, are you saying that all that still exists, in fact is still the overwhelming predominant situation with OLCC owners, and that you just have RCI Points as an option, if you have converted to Global Whatever.

OLCC is actually RCI Points now rather than RCI Weeks since the Global Access points convert into RCI Points at a 2:1 ratio. I have called RCI and have had the ability to directly book through RCI my Global Access points as RCI Points for RCI resorts. Of course, most deposits to RCI from OLCC are weeks as probably more than 90% of OLCC have remained weeks rather than convert to Global Access. I was told by a the RCI Points account with RCI. You know sales people, whether this is true or not is uncertain.

[mshatty Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close mshatty]

OLCC is actually RCI Points now rather than RCI Weeks since the Global Access points convert into RCI Points at a 2:1 ratio. I have called RCI and have had the ability to directly book through RCI my Global Access points as RCI Points for RCI resorts. Of course, most deposits to RCI from OLCC are weeks as probably more than 90% of OLCC have remained weeks rather than convert to Global Access. I was told by a sales person that the $89 per year membership fee actually goes to RCI to pay for the RCI Points account with RCI. You know sales people, whether this is true or not is uncertain.

Where do OLCC owners deposit with RCI if they haven't purchased the Global Access points? Weeks or Points?

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Where do OLCC owners deposit with RCI if they haven't purchased the Global Access points? Weeks or Points?

Must be weeks. I don't see anything with Points searching Points for summer 08 <within the 10 month time frame>. But I see OLCC in weeks, of course it's all just one resort code until 2009.

How did OLCC hi-jack my thread? and Jim had nothing to do with it?

[LynnW Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LynnW]

I also checked June13/09 for 10 weeks this morning with points and saw 13 resorts.

Lynn

[gjw007 Member Find all posts View Profile Close gjw007]

Where do OLCC owners deposit with RCI if they haven't purchased the Global Access points? Weeks or Points?

Weeks. Nothing has changed for OLCC owners who haven't converted to Global Access. If you didn't convert to Global Access and still have membership with RCI, it will be in Weeks. If you converted to Global Access, you have access through RCI Points for external exchanges. For these RCI exchanges, you are suppose to contact Global Access who then put you in touch with RCI Points but when I had asked a question about Global Access early in the program, they put in contact directly with RCI who reported they had access to the OLCC system. The funny thing was that I didn't ask a RCI question but a Global Access question and internal to OLCC. RCI and I both didn't understand why I was transferred to him but he did provide some information on the ability of RCI to get into OLCC's Global Access system. The relationship between Global Access and RCI Points is not a clean RCI Points relationship (such as my Vacation Village at Parkway where I have a RCI Points account and never need to deal with VVP wheras with Global Access you are suppose to contact Global Access and you can't look directly at a RCI Points account) but RCI clearly has access to OLCC Global Access system. In general, if you have Global Access, it is used for internal exchanges and RCI Points for external exchanges. And again, for those who didn't upgrade, it is still RCI Weeks for exchanges.

This isn't much different than other resorts that have converted to RCI Points. My week at Vacation Village is RCI Points and is deposited into RCI Points but there are weeks at the resort that are week units and are deposited in weeks. When I owned at Alhambra Villas, my unit would be deposited into my weeks account whereas those who upgraded to points were put in the points account. The same I believe is true at Summer Bay.

[gjw007 Member Find all posts View Profile Close gjw007]

How did OLCC hi-jack my thread? and Jim had nothing to do with it?

Sorry but I think it could have been any resort where there are units that are weeks and other units that are in points (Summer Bay, Vacation Village at Parkway, Alhambra Villas, etc. are just some examples of these type of resorts).

Do you think that the change in the availability to see various resorts is due to the change in the ratings system done by RCI or could there be another factor?

[IreneLF Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close IreneLF]

I see nothing of 'quality' with a Smugglers' white week (and whites and blues were used to pull Orlando/OLCC/Sheraton in the past) for the same time period, 11 results in all.

HOWEVER, there is a lot of availability for those 2 resorts in LAST CALL if you want to pay up to $1000 a week.
What does this tell you?

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Sorry but I think it could have been any resort where there are units that are weeks and other units that are in points (Summer Bay, Vacation Village at Parkway, Alhambra Villas, etc. are just some examples of these type of resorts).

Do you think that the change in the availability to see various resorts is due to the change in the ratings system done by RCI or could there be another factor?

Gary very true.It is just my odd sense of humor acting up.

I've been trying to puzzle this out. Orlando is a good example to use but I could have used Williamsburg or Branson.

What I am seeing is a much stricter availability particularly for larger units within RCI. Even on large spacebanks at various resorts, weaker traders will only see Friday check-ins or one bedrooms. This has always been the case but it seems much more prevalent now.

The main point I am making is that when one requires a monster trader to see acceptable accomodations somewhere like Orlando that we must adjust our thought process. Many are under the misconception that places like these are a gimme if you search far enough out and that just isn't true anymore during school vacation periods.

[gophish Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close gophish]

Hadn't had a chance to look yesterday but when I checked today with a 2BR red FF/Wyndham which usually trades pretty good I only see the 10 resorts.
I have been really fed up with the way the FF/Wyndham deposits have been trading (crappy) and I had an off and on dialogue with Customer Relations about it and they finally gave me 70,000 Customer Satisfaction points to appease my frustrations but would not admit that trading has gotten worse.
I did however, just return from a week in a HGVC 3br that I got with a FF/Wyndham 2BR but this was pretty uncrowded season in Orlando!

[katiemack Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close katiemack]

Gary very true.It is just my odd sense of humor acting up.

I've been trying to puzzle this out. Orlando is a good example to use but I could have used Williamsburg or Branson.

What I am seeing is a much stricter availability particularly for larger units within RCI. Even on large spacebanks at various resorts, weaker traders will only see Friday check-ins or one bedrooms. This has always been the case but it seems much more prevalent now.

The main point I am making is that when one requires a monster trader to see acceptable accomodations somewhere like Orlando that we must adjust our thought process. Many are under the misconception that places like these are a gimme if you search far enough out and that just isn't true anymore during school vacation periods.

I think that this is the staging that is leading up to the Exchange PluS DOLLARs to upgrade from a smaller to larger unit.

RCI has had that icon show up in weeks from time to time....so essentially it is a way to force weeks ownership into a points based trade. This is another cash cow idea from the folks who made it famous.