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[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Everyone should be seeing everything. Anyone understand it to be other than that?

Well, DVC would account for 14 : Walt Disney World [14]

Can you see Orange Lake, Vistana, other Orlando resorts?

[bellesgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bellesgirl]

I have never been able to see DVC in Orlando - I can see DVC in other areas. I do see Vistana and Orange Lake but I believe there is a block on some other Orlando properties.
I see Florida Orlando Area [5171] Broken down as follows:
Davenport [133]
Kissimmee [3882]
Lake Buena Vista [35]
Orlando [1121]

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Anyone understand it to be other than that?

Comparing across a couple of accounts, it appears that VEP (the downward filter) is still in place. At least, that's the most straightforward way for me to explain what I am seeing.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Comparing across a couple of accounts, it appears that VEP (the downward filter) is still in place. At least, that's the most straightforward way for me to explain what I am seeing.

& not seeing.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I have never been able to see DVC in Orlando - I can see DVC in other areas. I do see Vistana and Orange Lake but I believe there is a block on some other Orlando properties.
I see Florida Orlando Area [5171] Broken down as follows:
Davenport [133]
Kissimmee [3882]
Lake Buena Vista [35]
Orlando [1121]

Florida Orlando Area [5172]

Pretty much the same, so that's not it.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

& not seeing.

Precisely!

[bellesgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bellesgirl]

Comparing across a couple of accounts, it appears that VEP (the downward filter) is still in place. At least, that's the most straightforward way for me to explain what I am seeing.

I am curious if the numbers you are seeing in the account affected by VEP are similar to mine - approx. 145K - or JLBs 147K.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

As of this morning, one account is around 144,800 and change. The other is just under 145,900. I have yet to find something that the larger one sees that the other one doesn't, so I can't be 100% sure, but the second account should have a lower VEP than the first, if I understand it correctly.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

I don't think the ''big number'' tells us as much as numbers and resorts in the specific areas we are familiar with and how they have changed (or in some cases not changed) since the arrival of Points Lite, especially as they relate to the deposits we ourselves have used over the years.

JLB is one who can cite chapter and verse of how things have been altered in his neck of the woods.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

JLB is one who can cite chapter and verse of how things have been altered in his neck of the woods.

And document it with thousands of daily searches.
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As to VEP, why should that be necessary any more? Would TPUs not be sufficient notice?

I can hear the Guide now, "Well, you took an 8 with a 60. (dumbass inferred by intonation) What can I say?"

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I am curious if the numbers you are seeing in the account affected by VEP are similar to mine - approx. 145K - or JLBs 147K.

I'm low 147 this morning.

We know some are seeing less for some reason (nah nah nah . . . I can see 2000 crappy resorts you can't ).

Anyone seeing more?

(I'm still looking for the 30,000 that disappeared during the 5/30/09 enhancement.)

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I don't think the ''big number'' tells us as much as numbers and resorts in the specific areas we are familiar with and how they have changed (or in some cases not changed) since the arrival of Points Lite, especially as they relate to the deposits we ourselves have used over the years.

That is also the point I make about Guides.

They (I venture to mean all of them, or nearly all of them) do not know any more about our specific interests than we do.

In my case, none of them have searched the same area for the same month almost every day since rci.com began. Nor have they been to just about all of the resorts in the area. Nor have they studied the history of the resorts in the area, to know such things as who developed them, and when, and whether they were purpose-built or conversions. Nor do they have specific other knowledge of the area or the resorts.

Same with all of the resorts everywhere.

Yet they pass judgement. They look at their computers and pass judgement.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

As to VEP, why should that be necessary any more? Would TPUs not be sufficient notice?

Trade power mixes up a bunch of different metrics all in one number---only one component (and, as I understand it, a *small* component) is resort quality. So, a week could be a 6 because it is a nice resort that is deeply off-season, or it could be because it is a true dump.

Personally, I don't see much point in VEP at all, because I can actually read reviews and decide for myself if the fleabag motel conversion in a special location is or is not worth my time. But, put yourself in the shoes of the Average Timeshare Owner. ATO doesn't know anything that his or her sales agent didn't tell him---and that's worse than knowing nothing at all.

I don't think the ''big number'' tells us as much as numbers and resorts in the specific areas we are familiar with and how they have changed (or in some cases not changed)

I think that's right. I can't spot any actual weeks I care about that *are* seen by the lower VEP account but *are not* seen by the higher one. So, it seems like a meaningless difference. It is interesting that I used to ascribe the differences in the two accounts to trade power---and that was some of it, but now I've come to find that it is not all of it.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

So far, deeply off-season, means the next 2 or 3 weeks.

You see anything else, further out, that low?

So, a 60 should know that a 6 at the last minute could be nice or could be crappy. A 6 further out would be crappy.

Or are 60s not as smart as 18s?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

VEP?

I guess that's why back in the old days, a month ago, my buddy's peak-season Pueblo Bonito always saw a couple thousand more than my Slimey Slough studios, cuz the company did not want us to be disappointed trading down.