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[157,401]

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[157,903]

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121,639 - Summer Colorado Week

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I'm posting "all available", cuz before enhancements I could see all available, m/l.

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[158,229]

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Strange:

All Deposits: [158,376]
A Single Deposit: [158,387]

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All: [160,363]
Single: [160,365]

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Some thoughts about numbers.

For a long time it seemed like there were just a very few different levels of trading power. We saw that in the Trading Power tests of 10-12 years ago. In a test there would be just a few clumps of several deposits seeing the same nhumber of weeks. I could post one of the tests I have saved, but there might be only 8-10 different levels of trading power.

Then in recent years, things were more fine-tuned, with a seemingly infirnite number of trading power levels. Top Traders might see 1000, or even as small as 100, different exchanges, and there not being any visible clumps. I had heard that was the case, that trading power had been refined down to each and every week at each and every resort.

Now, it would appear that we are back to the clump model, a finite number of level of trading power, 60 at the most.

Has any tried to figure out if there are actually 60, or if, in fact, there are fewer, with large numbers of deposit at each. I will ask that in a new thread thread.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

In the old system, trading was within bands, sometimes called trading within a range. If your trading power made it into the bottom of a particular band, you could trade for anything up to the top of that band. In the new system, you have to have the exact number needed to make a trade. There are no more bands in this part of the exchange mechanism.

However, that does not mean that bands have disappeared.

In the old system, we were told that the trade power assigned to deposits was specific to the week, unit type, and resort. We had nothing we could look at to know that was true, but talking to people with various weeks in times that supply / demand shifted significantly almost week by week, I believe RCI was telling it straight on that. Now, instead of assigning trading power specifically to weeks, RCI in Points Lite has used bands like RCI Points to assign trading power to deposits. For periods like the summer, this works out okay, but for periods like the spring and fall, where values change incrimentally week by week, if lumps together weeks of far different values and assigns them the same value. If you own a week at the low end of one of these bands, you make out like a bandit because the overaveraging inflates the value of your week. If you own a week at the top end of one of these bands, however, you are royally screwed by the overaveraging.

When the trading mechanism worked in bands, under the old RCI Weeks, this was positive for members, as it allowed some slight trades up. That has now gone away under Points Lite.

When assignment of trading power works in bands, as in the new Points Lite, then this can be positive, negative, or neutral for each owner personally, depending on the week you own. What it definitely is NOT, however, is fair.

Some thoughts about numbers.

For a long time it seemed like there were just a very few different levels of trading power. We saw that in the Trading Power tests of 10-12 years ago. In a test there would be just a few clumps of several deposits seeing the same nhumber of weeks. I could post one of the tests I have saved, but there might be only 8-10 different levels of trading power.

Then in recent years, things were more fine-tuned, with a seemingly infirnite number of trading power levels. Top Traders might see 1000, or even as small as 100, different exchanges, and there not being any visible clumps. I had heard that was the case, that trading power had been refined down to each and every week at each and every resort.

Now, it would appear that we are back to the clump model, a finite number of level of trading power, 60 at the most.

Has any tried to figure out if there are actually 60, or if, in fact, there are fewer, with large numbers of deposit at each. I will ask that in a new thread thread.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I had been told similar, that the bands were once quite big, and that something in the bottom of a band could get the same as something at the top.

I think that's what we were seeing when Trading Power Tests were popular, circa 1999-2001. When I'm at Ole POC, I'll look to see if I have one.

Then, there appeared to be as many levels of TP as there were deposits, each tweaked to it.

Now, there could be as many as 60 bands, right? . . . but we don't know that.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

For exchanging there seem to be, as a practical matter, 60 bands.

For valuation of a deposited week at most resorts, however, there seem to be only 6 to 8 bands.

Therein lies the rub.

There really ought to be 52 bands times the number of different unit configurations for each resort on valuation. That is the way RCI told us it was in the old days. Now, in the new system, the tradiing power calculator clearly shows us that it does not work that way now.

A huge number of bands for exchange purposes but limited bands for valuation is the worst of both worlds for members and is the exact reverse of the way it worked when it really was a Weeks system.

I had been told similar, that the bands were once quite big, and that something in the bottom of a band could get the same as something at the top.

I think that's what we were seeing when Trading Power Tests were popular, circa 1999-2001. When I'm at Ole POC, I'll look to see if I have one.

Then, there appeared to be as many levels of TP as there were deposits, each tweaked to it.

Now, there could be as many as 60 bands, right? . . . but we don't know that.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

All availible for exchange on RCI Europe today - 154,672 as follows:
Europe - 33,044
Africa and Middle East - 2,855
Asia - 5,612
Australia, NZ, and Pacific - 761
South America - 4,752
Central America - 621
Mexico - 31,585
Caribbean - 6,121
USA - 64,877
Canada - 5,065

I am particularly interested in how the Europe number compares with all availible for that region on RCI North America.

For the Europe availibility, well over half of it (17,222 weeks) was in Spain including the Canary Islands. South Africa had 598 weeks at 47 resorts.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Different . . . bigger difference than non-simultaneous search would explain.

[158,899]

Africa & The Middle East [3630]
Asia [6730]
Australia & South Pacific [855]
Canada [5071]
Caribbean & Bermuda [6520]
Central America [719]
Europe [31731]
Mexico [32430]
South America [4918]

Canary Islands [10439]
Central Europe [3292]
France [423]
Italy [926]
Mediterranean [1940]
Portugal [2677]
Scandinavia & Finland [3783]
Spain [6760]
United Kingdom & Ireland [1494]

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

It would be interesting to do a comparasion of availibility in the various RCI regions by coordinating a trade test at the same time of RCI North America, RCI Europe, RCI Australia, and any other regions we could get members from.

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It would be interesting to do a comparasion of availibility in the various RCI regions by coordinating a trade test at the same time of RCI North America, RCI Europe, RCI Australia, and any other regions we could get members from.

Do you really think anyone gives a rip any more?