Hyatt Timeshare coming to Oceanside?

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Tuesday, November 27, 2007
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Oceanside's Flying Bridge Restaurant is open, owner says

By: MARGA KELLOGG - Staff Writer

OCEANSIDE ---- Ron DesRosiers, owner of The Flying Bridge restaurant, has a message for his customers and others who have visited the bluffside dining spot --- his restaurant is open and will be for several years while plans for a hotel, restaurant and condominium on the property are fleshed out.

DesRosiers said recently that business at the eatery, which opened in 1946, has dropped 10 percent since plans were first reported that a 127-room Hyatt hotel would eventually be built at 1105 N. Coast Highway, on property that now holds the Guesthouse Inn, in addition to the Flying Bridge. He said he thought people misunderstood and believed the restaurant would immediately shut down.

"I just need to let people know that you're looking at two to three years down the road before this restaurant is closed for demolishing," DesRosiers said. "I'll probably relocate somewhere else, but in the meantime we need to let readers know we're open full-scale."

The restaurant is open from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday through Friday and from 10 a.m. to midnight on weekends. There is a Champagne brunch served Saturday and Sunday from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. and live music Tuesday through Sunday.

DesRosiers said he thought the Hyatt would be a good thing for the area.

But, he said, "my biggest thing is people don't realize that even with the new project, which is well overdue in this area, it doesn't happen overnight."

City Planner Jerry Hittleman said that the Hyatt project, which has been proposed by property owner and physician Shantu Patel, is nearing the stage of determining environmental impact, but that the report "probably won't be available until next spring."

Patel has said the leases on the Flying Bridge and the 80-room Guesthouse Inn don't generate much income.

He said he thought the Hyatt would increase occupancy rates on the property because it would offer the public a more upscale hotel that is more consistent with recent condominiums and time share developments in Oceanside.

City Redevelopment Manager Kathy Baker said in May that projects such as Patel's usually take at least 6 to 9 months to get through the city's approval process. She said there are some coastal, traffic and environmental concerns because of the property's vicinity to the banks of the San Luis Rey River.

Baker said an environmental impact report could take between 12 and 18 months to process.

Eric Hofman, with Hofman Planning of Carlsbad, is representing Patel to the City of Oceanside.

He said Patel was preparing the environmental report.

"That's the next step," he said. "Getting a draft of the environmental impact report out and having the appropriate meetings."

Contact staff writer Marga Kellogg at (760) 901-4067 or mkellogg@nctimes.com

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[elena Member Find all posts View Profile Close elena]

Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. Oceanside is really changing!

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The Wyndham/FF will be open at the end of the month. There is a Westin going in which will be hotel and fractionals as far as I know. Now Hyatt is possible. WorldMark already there. Things are looking up.

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The Wyndham/FF will be open at the end of the month. There is a Westin going in which will be hotel and fractionals as far as I know. Now Hyatt is possible. WorldMark already there. Things are looking up.

4,

Do you have a reservation at the new Wyn/FF yet?

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Still waiting for my account....it is taking forever.

4,

Do you have a reservation at the new Wyn/FF yet?

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yes you are 100% correct Hyatt is coming south!!!

Also hyatt is going to be opening up Nothstar Hyatt at the end of the year.

Also Hyatt is going to be looking at SFO (downtown) partial hotel conversion.

Hyatt is a great company to own we love it a tone but we always like to have some nice trades too.

So if any of you with 5 star resorts would like to do some exchanging we are open to discussion.

Have a great holiday and I like this Board!!

Keep up the good work one of my fiends told me abou0t this board!!!

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Hyatt Oceanside might be dead !!!

Here is some info on the Hyatt Oceanside property. I feel that Hyatt,the owner and the California Coastal Commission will work things out. I will keep all of you updated because I will be attending about 5 coastal commission meeting next year for some of my clients and their associated.

The California Coastal Commission had HUGE powers but if anybody can pull this off HYATT can. Remember they have Carmel Highlands Inn and that was also a BIG deal to the coastal staff but the Coastal Commissioners approved that project and did not listen to their staff. This Hyatt project will get very political but HYATT will get it approved they are very well connected and respected in the industry.

http://documents.coastal.ca.gov/repo...9a-12-2007.pdf

It looks like at the next coastal Commission meeting in Jan 08 timeshare in the south land will be heating up. Hyatt and the Developer will be heading down a hard road they will have some giving and taking if they want this project approved. The developer might want to hold out a olive branch ASAP!!!

I feel if the developer Patel is trying to get tuff with the 1 million fees he should work things out, because if there is a ton of $$$$$ to make 1 million is a drop in the bucket it is part of doing business in California and in the Coastal Zone (next to the beach ). What is the developer going to do he has pure junk sitting there now on the property and a huge upside potential $$$$ . I just hope he has a level head because if he doesn't play nice the Coast Commission they will crush the project and the developer will have to start a square one. Im glad to see that city is trying to work something out with Perter Douglas coastal big big boss.
Maybe they can set aside some property for open space and pay some fees also. Come on Hyatt make things happen!!!


Fees would kill Oceanside harbor hotel project, owner says

By: MARGA KELLOGG - Staff Writer
Officials working to maintain number of lower-cost rooms

OCEANSIDE ---- Local businessman Shantu Patel says he wants to put a new face on the downtown GuestHouse Inn, but is worried that hefty new fees being considered by the California Coastal Commission could be a death knell for the project.

Patel plans to demolish the 80-room inn and the Flying Bridge Restaurant at 1105 N. Coast Highway and replace them with a 127-room Hyatt hotel, overlooking the nearby harbor.

The Hyatt would increase occupancy rates on the property because it would offer an upscale hotel that is more consistent with recent condominiums and time-share developments in Oceanside, he said.

But a recent proposal by the staff of the California Coastal Commission would require developers who want to revamp downtown properties to pay up-front "in-lieu fees," --- money that the proposal says should be used for projects that would promote more affordable lodging options along the coast.

Patel says that, if approved, the proposal would add an estimated $1 million to his $25 million project.

At its Dec. 12 meeting, the commission killed a similar fee proposal that targeted new hotel and motel projects in Oceanside's downtown redevelopment area. But the panel stalled on how the fees should be applied to renovations such as Patel's.

Patel said if he has to pay the fees, he'll have to shelve his project. And, he said, if such fee proposals spread, it could lead to the demise of smaller hotels and motels on the California coast.

"In the long term," he said, "it will just cause the decay of those hotels and the coast will be littered with them. Whoever came up with this idea is not thinking it through. It may be a short-term tax to fund their projects like parks and hostels, but in the long term, it is definitely a negative."

A bigger picture
Jim Abrams, president and chief executive officer of the California Hotel and Lodging Association, said last week that his organization is drafting a letter to the commission, challenging the fees.

The association has 1,800 member properties throughout California and represents the lodging industry in government matters.

Abrams said the commission has no legal authority to impose in-lieu fees and added that, in Patel's case, if such fees mean he can't develop his property, they would constitute the unlawful taking of private property.

"If you're going to take my property or make it unusable, then that's basically eminent domain. You can't just willy-nilly do things to people's property," he said.

Under the recent proposal, developers who plan to demolish and rebuild a hotel or motel in Oceanside's downtown redevelopment area would have to pay fees of $30,000 per unit for half of any new rooms.

The money would be set aside to build campgrounds, RV parks and hostels to ensure there is still affordable lodging near the beach. The Coastal Commission defines affordable as $100 a night or less.

Abrams said the commission's staff has made it clear that while they're focusing on Oceanside, they're trying to come up with a policy that would cover the coastal zone for the entire state. If that's the case, he said, there are procedures that must be followed or the commission is breaking the law.

Abrams also questioned how the Coastal Commission determined that $100 a night constituted a low-cost hotel room, how it arrived at the $30,000 in-lieu fee and why the fees wouldn't be used to help developers build lower-cost hotels, rather than hostels and campgrounds.

The other side
Coastal Commission Executive Director Peter Douglas said last week that, in regard to a plan for the entire state, Abrams is right. That's why the commission is focusing on Oceanside and has addressed other similar situations on a case-by-case basis, Douglas added.

He said that at the Dec. 12 meeting, the commission approved two projects on the Central Coast that included in-lieu fees for hotels.

"We've been imposing in-lieu fees for over 25 years," Douglas said, pointing to a number of lower-cost accommodations that have been built with such fees, including two hostels in Santa Monica, and cottages at Crystal Cove State Park, which he said were preserved using in-lieu monies.

"We can't adopt a statewide policy except by regulation," he said, "but Oceanside's local coastal program was before us. We decided we didn't want the fees to apply to new hotels in that area because the commission agreed with the city that there are sufficient lower-cost accommodations available."

However, if the lower-cost hotels are renovated into pricey new properties, the affordable options diminish, Douglas said.

That's why the panel did not waive the in-lieu fee for remodeling projects, he added.