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  • Orlando Tripadvisor Reviews II

    Here's the other side of the coin, the positive side. This is the ranking of the percentage of reviews at each resort that gave the highest possible rating.

    Orlando Tripadvisor Reviews
    The Number of Top Ratings at Each Resort
    4/17/06

    Sunterra Polynesian Isles Resort~~~14 of 17~~~82%
    Fairfield at Cypress Palms~~~27 for 39~~~69%
    Oasis Lakes~~~7 of 11~~~67%
    The Fountains~~~12 of 18~~~67%
    HGVC on International Drive~~~38 of 59~~~65%
    Fairfield Orlando at Bonnet Creek~~~7 of 11~~~64%
    Disney’s Old Key West ~~~47 of 76~~~62%
    Horizons by Marriott~~~29 of 47~~~62%
    Disney’s Boardwalk Villas~~~21 of 35~~~60%
    Marriott’s Grande Vista~~~125 of 211~~~59%
    Sheraton Vistana Villages~~~150 of 254~~~59%
    Lake Marion Golf Resort~~~11 of 19~~~58%
    Marriott’s Cypress Harbour~~~46 of 81~~~57%
    Club Sunterra Cypress Pointe~~~57 of 114~~~50%
    Grand Lake Resort~~~6 of 12~~~50%
    Vacation Village at Parkway~~~32 of 66~~~48%
    Parkway International Resort~~~14 of 29~~~48%
    Disney’s Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa~~~20 of 42~~~48%
    Orange Lake Resort and Country Club~~~83 of 174~~~48%
    HGVC at Seaworld~~~44 of 91~~~48%
    Sheraton Vistana Resort~~~167 of 383~~~44%
    Westgate Palace~~~11 of 25~~~44%
    Marriott’s Imperial Palm Villas~~~4 of 10~~~40%
    Disney’s Beach Club Villas~~~12 of 30~~~40%
    Celebration World Resort~~~17 of 43~~~40%
    Summer Bay Resort~~~27 of 71~~~38%
    Westgate Blue Tree Resort~~~15 of 40~~~38%
    Magic Tree Resort~~~5 of 13~~~38%
    Fairfield Star Island Resort~~~5 of 13~~~38%
    Grand Beach Vacation Resort~~~11 of 29~~~38%
    Oak Plantation~~~43 of 122~~~35%
    Marriott’s Royal Palms~~~10 of 29~~~34%
    Liki Tiki Village~~~37 of 124~~~30%
    Silver Lake Resort~~~14 of 49~~~29%
    Star Island Resort and Club~~~23 of 82~~~28%
    Wyndham Palms Resort and Country Club~~~41 of 144~~~28%
    Celebrity Resorts Orlando~~~12 of 50~~~24%
    Westgate Lakes~~~54 of 234~~~23%
    Crowne Plaza Resort~~~3 of 14~~~21%
    Westgate Towers~~~5 of 24~~~21%
    Celebrity Resorts Lake Buena Vista~~~2 of 10~~~20%
    Marriott’s Sabal Palms~~~3 of 15~~~20%
    Westgate Vacation Villas~~~27 of 166~~~16%
    Orbit One Vacation Villas~~~2 of 11~~~18%
    Universal Resort~~~1 of 13~~~8%
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    Sunterra's Polynesian Isles over Marriott's Resorts are the readers saying that smaller resort's are better than t/s mega resorts.

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    • #3
      I'm fairly certain that question is outside the scope of the review. Each review is of the resorts they stayed in and of itself. If someone reviewed a resort relative to other resorts, that fact was not quantified.

      This list is simply the percentages that ranked each resort the highest available ranking. Period.

      But, yeah, sorta, this should open our eyes to some possibilities that don't get talk about much, probably for no other reason than that they are smaller. I would not hesitate to go to a smaller resort where 8 out of 10 absolutely love the place.
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      • #4
        Small resorts have a better feel for me. Interaction with guests and workers make for a neighborhood feeling. It's better for you to walk to the amenties or the office than it is to drive.

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        • #5
          An Opinion

          Let me indulge in an opinion.

          As Tony knows, it has been a few years since I was the only fair-faced, long-haired, Midwestern white boy sitting in that class of Asians in Advanced Research Statistical Analysis at Moo U. I am not a research statistician by trade, but I did ace that course. I'm not saying that I understood everything that was going on, but since probability was covered in the course, the probability is that I may have understood some of it.

          It certainly was not graded on attendance.

          I also got an A, with an A++ on the term paper I used for both Statistical Research courses in the Econ and Business departments, courses I took simultaneously for the sole purposes of using the same term paper in both.

          I feel enough of it stuck that I can have an opinion on this subject.

          First, I don't find Tripadvisor's rating system to be confusing. Here it is:

          Rate the subject of your review

          O Terrible
          O Okay, but some problems
          O Neutral / average
          O Above average
          O Excellent

          I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt that most anyone can complete that properly. If anything, it might be weighted against the more positive responses, since they are not the first choices. But, that's picky since it takes equal effort on a computer to select any of the five circles.

          Second, it appears that both of my analyses of the responses are somewhat self-verifying. There appears to be at least a tendency for resorts, or resort companies, that were toward the top of one set of responses to be toward the bottom of the other. Those near the middle in one set tend to be near the middle in the other.

          In other words (a phrase no one likes to hear because it implies speaking down to people, which I don't mean to do), resorts (or companies) that please the highest percentage of people tend the displease the fewest (and vice versa) and resorts that don't particularly please people also don't particularly displease people (and vice versa).

          I would tend to rely more on an independent survey of this nature than one conducted by the resorts themselves. If the responses are tainted, they appear to be consistently tainted.
          RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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          • #6
            Ah, statistics. I remember those Iowa days when I had to punch out EDP cards and feed them into the computer to generate an answer to a foot long equation that I can't even remember the name of - wait a minute - it was the coefficient of correlation. The only time statistics ever came into usage in the real world of business was a few decades ago when I did some statistical sampling in an audit. The random numbers were generated on a hand held rather than the company's IBM system 34.

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            • #7
              The rating system looks simple enough to me. If one chooses not to participate then that would be their option.

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              • #8
                Yes, Tony, you hit your head on the nail!

                Waiting in line with a stack of cards for a key punch machine and hoping you punched all the proper holes because if you didn't then waiting in that line and waiting in the next line, to turn in the cards, so that they could wait in line for an available computer, so that you could come back in two days to wait in a line to pick up your printout. What was I talking about?
                RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                • #9
                  As always, I have an opinion on this subject as well. I'll leave my resume out and let the power (or weakness) of my argument speak for itself.

                  What is most useful to me about these reviews are the qualitative impressions I get from reading the text. It gives you ideas of certain red flags and hidden gems in a resort that cannot be captured by a statistical review.

                  I also agree that getting an independent assessment of a resort is far better than getting the positive spin you will get from the resort itself.

                  As far as the statistical analysis is concerned, it is not very useful. There are two reasons for this. First, the sample is not random. It is biased towards those who choose to write a review on trip advisor. Second, the sample size is too small to be meaningful. The statistical analysis provided by a statistician would have described the errror rate in the numbers which captures the fact that the sample sizes are small. With so few votes on many resorts, the error rate could be + or - 25%. So, if a resort gets a rating of 40, that could mean 65 or 15.

                  So, the numbers are misleading and incomplete. A research statistician would not have forgotten to mention that fact.
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                  • #10
                    By the way, in general, you need about 1000 random samples to have a decent sample size for statistically meaningful analysis.

                    And, with a proper statistical analysis, you can determine statistically meaningful differences in data.
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                    • #11
                      What I said Over Yonder:

                      http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22879

                      also applies here:

                      Since the information I posted came from another, independent source, has nothing to do with any personal opinions I may or may not have, and I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't have anything to defend.

                      So I won't.

                      I believe any free thinker can look at the two Tripadvisor lists I have compiled, see some consistencies, and draw their own conclusions.

                      I am glad I compiled them because it has opened my mind to resorts that get very little play here, resorts that likely deserve more credit than we give them.
                      RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                      • #12
                        I might also add, the expectations of those staying at a Sunterra property may be less than those staying at a Marriott. If the Sunterra guest stayed at the Marriott property, he/she might have given it a high or higher rating, while the Marriott guest might have given a low grade to Sunterra if he/she stayed at that resort instead.

                        Notwithstanding, I do find these ratings/reviews of some value, even if not statistically valid, especially where the reviewer provides the basis for their report.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by somerville
                          I might also add, the expectations of those staying at a Sunterra property may be less than those staying at a Marriott. If the Sunterra guest stayed at the Marriott property, he/she might have given it a high or higher rating, while the Marriott guest might have given a low grade to Sunterra if he/she stayed at that resort instead.

                          Have you stayed at Sunterra Cypress Pointe recently? I would find it hard to believe that Marriott units could surpass them or the location.
                          Lawren
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                          • #14
                            I've heard that, too. For some reason it just keeps coming up out of the blue, like from the fraternity brother I had not heard from for many years. He said that's where they own, and they love it. He said they traded into another Orlando resort, one commonly thought to be nicer, and they were disappointed.

                            I've said it a few times now, against the promise to myself to try to not repeat myself or justify what I have already said, but I believe that because of the overwhelming amount of discussions about a very few resorts, some very nice resorts get very little mention.
                            - - - - - -
                            It appears I view Reviews and Ratings differently than others. I look for genrealities rather than specifics. I use them to get a feeling for the resort or the resort company, either warm or not-so-warm. In that context I see Cypress Pointe and most of the Marriotts, as warms, and Marriott as a company as favorable.

                            So, I would not hesitate to stay at Cypress Pointe or a Marriott, the same as I would not hesitate to stay at Disney, another company that gives off good vibes.

                            Tripadvisor has not been mentioned much on these timeshare forums, and I offer it merely as another tool we can use. As TS4Ms is new, without a large database of resort information, any outside source should be welcomed.

                            If some choose to pick virtually every post as a point of contention, or to be continually argumentative, that is their perogative, but I'm not sure that is the main purpose of these forums. Frankly, after 8 years, that sort of stuff is getting a little old.

                            Originally posted by lawren2
                            Have you stayed at Sunterra Cypress Pointe recently? I would find it hard to believe that Marriott units could surpass them or the location.
                            RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                            • #15
                              Now I'm not going to crack the books to dispute this, but I doubt if one needs a random sample of that size. Of course that would depend of your interpretation of "statistically meaningful analysis".
                              Originally posted by BocaBum99
                              By the way, in general, you need about 1000 random samples to have a decent sample size for statistically meaningful analysis.

                              And, with a proper statistical analysis, you can determine statistically meaningful differences in data.

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