Posted in my private messages

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http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...pm&pmid=159790

Somehow this new poster got this into my private message box (scratches head)

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The link you gave is to your PM bix which we can not see. Did you get a spam PM, if so forward me the PM with there ID and I will give them the Boot


BTW I am moving your post to the right forum.

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The link you gave is to your PM bix which we can not see. Did you get a spam PM, if so forward me the PM with there ID and I will give them the Boot


BTW I am moving your post to the right forum.

Frank - the poster is "jamest" and it's his 1st post. His link is, http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...rs/jamest.html
There doesn't seem to be anything intrusive in the post, just can't figure how it went into my PM box?
I have included his message below:

Jose Manuel Cristerna- new scam

I purchased a one month fractional ownership in april 2011 at Condos Villamar in Mazatlan from Ocean Edificaciones S.A de C.V. It is the month of January, which we sold back to Villamar for the year 2012. I was in Mazatlan in Feb. 2012 and went to Villamar to make sure my suite would be available for January of 2013. I was told by Vladimir Jimenez that the “new owners” were not honoring any of the previous contracts and that I was out of pocket the 30000.00 usd that I had paid. I was given an address and phone number in Mazatlan and I went there to see the “old owners” but it was nonexistent and the phone number was no longer in service. However, he would reinstate the contract at a greatly reduced price so as not to have any hard feelings. (13000.00 usd) I almost fell for that except there were too many discrepancies with what he was telling me and what was in writing.
Vladimir promised to honor our original contract in full.
He said he would Guarantee me to sell my month every year for 5 years at 2500 usd/ week (10000/ month) and thus in 5 years I would have all my money back and would then be able to use my month (maintenance free of course). However, the new contract said a timeshare vacation exchange company would be reselling my time and there is no guarantee they could get anything for it.
He said they were not part of LaJolla Boutique Resort but the sales contracts we were to sign all had LaJolla written on them, not one had Villamar shown as the resort that I was purchasing. I also own at LaJolla and went to talk with Fransisco Kelly and he said he was unaware of what was going on at Villamar and that it was really none of his business. I told him that since they were using the LaJolla name and paperwork over at Villamar he had better make it his business because they were also making a bad name for his resort as well. He said he would look into it but I have not heard back from him (3 weeks now)
The final page showed all moneys owing were to go to the exact same address as the previous owner used. This was 5802 Bob Bullock C1, PO box 504-260, Laredo TX 78041. This address is nothing more than a freight shipping company that will forward mail from a mailbox number there to wherever you want it in the world via courier.
You may know of a man by the name of Mr. Jose Manuel Cristerna. He shows as the sole owner of Ocean Edificaciones S.A de C.V. He also shows up associated with Marina Mazatlan, Playa Maria, Crowne Bay, Torrenza, and La Isla timeshare scams. I can’t believe that any Mexican Government still allows this man to operate in Mazatlan when he is well known to be a crook, ripping off the tourists that come to visit Mazatlan and spend money there. He has spent time in jail for this. No wonder tourism is down in Mexico!

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Frank - the poster is "jamest" and it's his 1st post. His link is, http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...rs/jamest.html
There doesn't seem to be anything intrusive in the post, just can't figure how it went into my PM box?
I have included his message below:

Jose Manuel Cristerna- new scam

I purchased a one month fractional ownership in april 2011 at Condos Villamar in Mazatlan from Ocean Edificaciones S.A de C.V. It is the month of January, which we sold back to Villamar for the year 2012. I was in Mazatlan in Feb. 2012 and went to Villamar to make sure my suite would be available for January of 2013. I was told by Vladimir Jimenez that the “new owners” were not honoring any of the previous contracts and that I was out of pocket the 30000.00 usd that I had paid. I was given an address and phone number in Mazatlan and I went there to see the “old owners” but it was nonexistent and the phone number was no longer in service. However, he would reinstate the contract at a greatly reduced price so as not to have any hard feelings. (13000.00 usd) I almost fell for that except there were too many discrepancies with what he was telling me and what was in writing.
Vladimir promised to honor our original contract in full.
He said he would Guarantee me to sell my month every year for 5 years at 2500 usd/ week (10000/ month) and thus in 5 years I would have all my money back and would then be able to use my month (maintenance free of course). However, the new contract said a timeshare vacation exchange company would be reselling my time and there is no guarantee they could get anything for it.
He said they were not part of LaJolla Boutique Resort but the sales contracts we were to sign all had LaJolla written on them, not one had Villamar shown as the resort that I was purchasing. I also own at LaJolla and went to talk with Fransisco Kelly and he said he was unaware of what was going on at Villamar and that it was really none of his business. I told him that since they were using the LaJolla name and paperwork over at Villamar he had better make it his business because they were also making a bad name for his resort as well. He said he would look into it but I have not heard back from him (3 weeks now)
The final page showed all moneys owing were to go to the exact same address as the previous owner used. This was 5802 Bob Bullock C1, PO box 504-260, Laredo TX 78041. This address is nothing more than a freight shipping company that will forward mail from a mailbox number there to wherever you want it in the world via courier.
You may know of a man by the name of Mr. Jose Manuel Cristerna. He shows as the sole owner of Ocean Edificaciones S.A de C.V. He also shows up associated with Marina Mazatlan, Playa Maria, Crowne Bay, Torrenza, and La Isla timeshare scams. I can’t believe that any Mexican Government still allows this man to operate in Mazatlan when he is well known to be a crook, ripping off the tourists that come to visit Mazatlan and spend money there. He has spent time in jail for this. No wonder tourism is down in Mexico!

I am not sure what to make of this. Have you posted anything to do with what he sent you. If so he might have PMed you looking for help. Or he might have wanted to post this and sent it to you by mistake. I do not think he is a spamer but if I get one more word of him doing this :wavy:

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Hi Frank
No never ever posted anything on this Fractional Ownership resort or the person he is relating to. I have made the comment on a few of my general posts that I own at a Timeshare Resort in Cancun, but thats about it.

Thanks
Malcolm