Haiti "child kidnappers"

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

The plight of the children has been going on for years.

Hopefully with this case coming to light something good will come of this and the world will help Haiti find a solution to it's child slavery problem.

Read about it here if you like:

Restavèks ? Haiti?s child slaves - Radio Netherlands Worldwide - English

I work in Miami with lots of Haitian Americans and many of them had one when living in Haiti. My friends claim that they do it to take care of the children on the streets, not for slavery but it ends up working out that way as there is no love for these children. Sad but hopefully we'll see it change with all the nations pitching in. We can only pray it is so.

[Sydney Contributor - Bronze Find all posts View Profile Close Sydney]

The Missionary Leader had Plan on using Haiti children to make her money even befor the earthquake, she was setting up so call orphanage to sell those kids as child-slaves,

Do you have any proof of these allegations? If not, then all I can say is, what utter rubbish. I hope you're not thinking that hiding behind an anonymous internet handle gives you the right to make such allegations against real people.

You can question others' judgement and actions but when you make criminal allegations, you should be careful not to tarnish others based on your opinion presented as fact.

[brother coony Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close brother coony]

Not hiding, I have Haitian friends and have been told this for years,am also A Jamaican,and people has smuggled Hitian kids thru Jamaican waters for Child Slaves, not only that, The USA has put Jamaica on its List of Countries that is not doing enought to stop Child Trafficing, Sydney, where Have you been, This is noting new,sorry man no distrespect but you have to leave the safety of your back yard, there is awhole world out there some of it pretty and some not so nice, and we should not only open our eyes to the beauty, but also speak up about the ugly,and see if we all can do a little to change some of the ugly, next week I will see if I can get you some article of facts
brother c, aka Howard Beswick

[CarolF Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CarolF]

If they wanted to help Haiti, they should have made a donation to a worthy charity and stayed home.

From what I've heard, it wasn't too stable over there before the earthquake, and now it's even worse. I don't think they had any business even going there to begin with. That was just one more group of people to put a burden on the water and food shortage.

I agree.

The last thing a disaster zone needs is a bunch of ill-prepared people who are not part of a wider co-ordinated effort. If they weren't invited by a skilled and experienced "Aid Agency", vetted, trained and prepared for a specific role, they become part of the problem, not the solution.

Between the smoke, dust, stench, rotting bodies and death all around at every turn not to mention the constant aftershocks, I think that they really thought it couldn't get any worse for these children and were willing to take a risk, to save a few children while it was still possible.

That is what a disaster zone is, doesn't matter whether it's a natural disaster or war zone. Ok, I'm sure that some people get there, can't stomach it and need to leave, fine, but as for taking (saving??) children with them. What a damn cheek. Unbelievable!

Ignorance and stupidity is no defence. As Keith said, the motives there were more likely egotism than caring. I'm glad they are out of the way.

[Sydney Contributor - Bronze Find all posts View Profile Close Sydney]

Ignorance and stupidity is no defence. As Keith said, the motives there were more likely egotism than caring. I'm glad they are out of the way.

When I first read it in the papers, I remember thinking that only Americans woud do something as arrogant as this (sorry guys), but then I realised Australians don't exactly have an perfect record, what with the Stolen Generation and all.

[CarolF Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CarolF]

When I first read it in the papers, I remember thinking that only Americans woud do something as arrogant as this (sorry guys), but then I realised Australians don't exactly have an perfect record, what with the Stolen Generation and all.

Good reminder Sydney. As much as I might like to kid myself, I'm certainly guilty of stereotyping. There is a saying that goes "when you point your finger, there are 3 more pointing back at you", how true it is.

I'm just glad they didn't get away with the children. I read that Unicef is working on tracing the families of separated children, thank goodness, there is a halt on adoption, and the PM's authorisation is required for any departing child.

[Keitht Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Keitht]

When I first read it in the papers, I remember thinking that only Americans woud do something as arrogant as this (sorry guys), but then I realised Australians don't exactly have an perfect record, what with the Stolen Generation and all.

I don't think any country can claim the high ground regarding this kind of situation. Right up until the 1950s British kids were being shipped out (literally) to Australia and some of those ended up in virtual slavery.

The common thread that seems to run through all of these events is that people who thought/believed that "They knew best" acted without any consultation with the people they were dealing with. Whether civic or religious groups they all suffered from being driven by their own blinkered view of what was right or wrong.

[CarolF Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CarolF]

I don't think any country can claim the high ground regarding this kind of situation. Right up until the 1950s British kids were being shipped out (literally) to Australia and some of those ended up in virtual slavery.

The common thread that seems to run through all of these events is that people who thought/believed that "They knew best" acted without any consultation with the people they were dealing with. Whether civic or religious groups they all suffered from being driven by their own blinkered view of what was right or wrong.

There is certainly enough history from our own "developed countries" to learn lessons. What happened to this group, they are all old enough to know better.

[brother coony Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close brother coony]

Missionaries Place Blame

[Keitht Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Keitht]

"We just wanted to help the children. We did not understand all your rules"

So ignorance of the law is their only defence?? Surely ignorance of the law is no defence at all. I'm sure that if I was caught stealing and ended up in a US court, the judge would look kindly on me if I said " I didn't realise it was against the rules in the US just to take what I wanted without permission". Yeah - right.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

HLN just had an interview with a Haitian cop saying he stopped the same group previously with 100 children they were trying to get out of the country, without Haitian papers.

[Sydney Contributor - Bronze Find all posts View Profile Close Sydney]

Look what appeared in our newspaper this morning - child prostitution claims.
Jorge Anibal Torres Puello