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Any time you buy bottled beer from a craft brewer you need to verify the date. Beer does not keep, and it's really easy to pick up stale beer from brewers that don't have good turnover. Hale's certainly fits that category. I think there's at least a 2/3 chance that bottled stuff you got was stale.

Both of the labels you mention, Sierra Nevada and Deschutes, have good turnover if you get them from an outlet that does reasonable volume. I often buy both of those brands from Rite-Aid. The Rite-Aid store nearest me has a decent selection of microbrews with something good almost always on sale for $10.99. Often it's Descutes, sometimes Sierra Nevada or Alaskan Amber, Pyramid, or RedHook.

The other day I bought a six of Pike Pub Kilt Lifter from QFC, a scotch ale that is one of my favorites. Cost me $8.99 even with my QFC card, though, and when I stocked it in the refrigerator I couldn't help but think if I had gone to QFC I would have had as much still in reserve in the pantry.

Good Scotch ales and ambers are my favorites, as they provide what for me is the best blend of malt and hops. Maybe I'm particular, but I think that must be one of the trickiest to brew, as I find very few Scotch and ambers ales that hit the right note.

I tried an IPA the other day at the local Rock Bottom that I thought really missed the mark. They described it as having strong floral notes, and that certainly was true. I think the brewmaster was trying to make something as wildly hoppy as he could do. But being unique is not the same as being good.

True skill with comestibles involves managing subtlety. That IPA was anything but subtle.

I like an Irish Red. The best I ever had was at the departure lounge in Shannon Airport. Beamish makes it and it's not imported over here. Yes, their stout is, but not their Irish Red to my knowledge.
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Mercedes Benzene?

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Mercedes Benzene?

Latching onto yours...............

Cyclohexane+peace ?

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Peace of mind ?

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But it's not a peace symbol. It's a Mercedes Benz symbol. It's missing the middle foot for a peace symbol.

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But it's not a peace symbol. It's a Mercedes Benz symbol. It's missing the middle foot for a peace symbol.

Time for new glasses. Thanks. I've beeing do this a lot ! I almost bought a $810.00 sweater in St Thomas thinking that it was $81.00 ! Imagine my surprise ! I almost fell over at the cashier's. I did not buy it.


So, I think that you're correct. It must be a Mercedes Benzene !!! Good one !

Steve, give us another !!!

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Any time you buy bottled beer from a craft brewer you need to verify the date. Beer does not keep, and it's really easy to pick up stale beer from brewers that don't have good turnover. Hale's certainly fits that category. I think there's at least a 2/3 chance that bottled stuff you got was stale.

Both of the labels you mention, Sierra Nevada and Deschutes, have good turnover if you get them from an outlet that does reasonable volume. I often buy both of those brands from Rite-Aid. The Rite-Aid store nearest me has a decent selection of microbrews with something good almost always on sale for $10.99. Often it's Descutes, sometimes Sierra Nevada or Alaskan Amber, Pyramid, or RedHook.

The other day I bought a six of Pike Pub Kilt Lifter from QFC, a scotch ale that is one of my favorites. Cost me $8.99 even with my QFC card, though, and when I stocked it in the refrigerator I couldn't help but think if I had gone to QFC I would have had as much still in reserve in the pantry.

Good Scotch ales and ambers are my favorites, as they provide what for me is the best blend of malt and hops. Maybe I'm particular, but I think that must be one of the trickiest to brew, as I find very few Scotch and ambers ales that hit the right note.

I tried an IPA the other day at the local Rock Bottom that I thought really missed the mark. They described it as having strong floral notes, and that certainly was true. I think the brewmaster was trying to make something as wildly hoppy as he could do. But being unique is not the same as being good.

True skill with comestibles involves managing subtlety. That IPA was anything but subtle.

Entirely possible my bottled Hales was old, but I tend to buy most of my beer at my local Albertson's which has very high turnover. This experience was about 8-10 years or so ago, IIRC, so maybe I'll give it another try.

I would agree that there are a lot of bizarre micro's out there. What also strikes me is how uninteresting some of the "award winning" brews are. Sure, they're very drinkable, but with some I might as well be drinking Miller Lite.

Pale ales are my favorite, but I also like some darker ales such as Fat Tire from New Belgium in Fort Collins, and Moose Drool from Big Sky in Missoula. Also like some lagers such as Beck's and Stella.

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Mercedes Benzene?

Mercedes Benzene it is!!!!!

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This marks the first use of my chemistry minor since 1983.

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So, I think that you're correct. It must be a Mercedes Benzene !!! Good one !

Steve, give us another !!!

Last one.

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Entirely possible my bottled Hales was old, but I tend to buy most of my beer at my local Albertson's which has very high turnover. This experience was about 8-10 years or so ago, IIRC, so maybe I'll give it another try.

Some micros can sit on the shelves in grocery stores for a long time, even though you might think it's high turnover.

You would think Trader Joe's, for example, would be an unlikely place for stale beer. I don't buy beer there, though, because every time I've checked dates on their lower volume stocks (which is what I'm most interested in) the beer has been very old. I've seen a lot of stuff on their floor that is more than six months old.

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Last one.

Paradox?

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true story

I have a friend who was pursuing a degree in chemistry. The summer between his jr. and sr. years he had a horrible car wreck (tree split his car literally in half). He tried to go back to school that fall but had to stay out a year because of amnesia (couldn't even recognize his roommate from the year before). Lucky for him he had completed all his course work for his major; when he went back he just took electives. He got his degree, but he can't tell a benzene ring from a piston ring! Doesn't have any trouble now except for those few years. --ken

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I have a friend who was pursuing a degree in chemistry. The summer between his jr. and sr. years he had a horrible car wreck (tree split his car literally in half). He tried to go back to school that fall but had to stay out a year because of amnesia (couldn't even recognize his roommate from the year before). Lucky for him he had completed all his course work for his major; when he went back he just took electives. He got his degree, but he can't tell a benzene ring from a piston ring! Doesn't have any trouble now except for those few years. --ken

I'm pretty much like that, except for the car wreck.

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Paradox?

We did that one earlier and he gave me the clue. Duh-uh, I finally got it !

Here's a shot in the dark, Metadocs ? Metaphysicians ?