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  • #31
    Originally posted by BocaBum99
    If you really don't like your employer, you should just quit. Or, start your own business. Until that time, you should be thankful you are even getting a paycheck and have any type of healthcare coverage in this very bad economic environment. If you left, I am sure that there are hundreds of other people who would take your job for less pay and benefits.
    Did you hear the tone of your own comment? That's exactly the line that others have been commenting about. I LOVE what I do - that's the only reason I stick around. It is very frustrating to work so hard and feel underappreciated or taken advantage of. BTW, I've checked out the market for my skills and level of responsibility and experience (20+ years). My earnings should be about $30,000 to $40,000 MORE than what I am being paid. I don't have health insurance because I can't afford the premiums. We have tried hiring people just out of college to pay them less (just above minimum wage). But they don't stick around or are often too overwhelmed by the amount of work required of them. I am currently starting up a freelance business, but will not quit my current position until I have enough steady work I can count on. As far as having people beat down the door to take my job--- when I was on maternity leave several years ago, three people were needed to do my job. And I now have double the responsibility. My boss at that time was so happy to have me come back he gave me a raise.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by longtimer
      Did you hear the tone of your own comment? That's exactly the line that others have been commenting about. I LOVE what I do - that's the only reason I stick around. It is very frustrating to work so hard and feel underappreciated or taken advantage of. BTW, I've checked out the market for my skills and level of responsibility and experience (20+ years). My earnings should be about $30,000 to $40,000 MORE than what I am being paid. I don't have health insurance because I can't afford the premiums. We have tried hiring people just out of college to pay them less (just above minimum wage). But they don't stick around or are often too overwhelmed by the amount of work required of them. I am currently starting up a freelance business, but will not quit my current position until I have enough steady work I can count on. As far as having people beat down the door to take my job--- when I was on maternity leave several years ago, three people were needed to do my job. And I now have double the responsibility. My boss at that time was so happy to have me come back he gave me a raise.
      It's great you love your job. Then, keep it and be thankful you are in such a position. Sorry for the tough love. But, that's my main point. You are there by your own choice and your own free will. You can leave at any time. I have no sympathy for people who complain about their job situation and do nothing about it. Make no mistake, you are complaining about the management. Obviously, management did something right because if they didn't, you wouldn't be staying there for half the pay you can get somewhere else.

      The first time I went to Hong Kong, the bell hop took us with our luggage to our room. He seemed to be the happiest person on earth. We asked him why he was so happy. He said it was because he was working full time at that hotel (10-12 hours per day, 6 days per week) and he viewed it as a tremendous opportunity. And, because of that job, he was going to have a great future. That really had an impact on me. It was at that time that I thought they were going to kick our butts economically.
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      • #33
        Boca, Let's not make this a shouting match. I agree with everything you have said. We are both making some generalizations. There are some excellent managers and there are some really bad ones. The same goes for employees (yes, I've seen many more bad employees than managers). I happen to be what seems to be the rare type of employee - someone who will do whatever it takes to get the job done and still be willing to pitch in to help others out. I'm getting burned out - now doing the work that was previously done by three people with no more pay. I started taking on freelance work with the idea that I would eventually quit and work for myself. And I've gotten complacent about searching for new work. So this conversation has given me the kick in the butt I needed to work a little harder towards my own goals - THANK YOU for that! So, can we call a truce?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by longtimer
          Boca, Let's not make this a shouting match. I agree with everything you have said. We are both making some generalizations. There are some excellent managers and there are some really bad ones. The same goes for employees (yes, I've seen many more bad employees than managers). I happen to be what seems to be the rare type of employee - someone who will do whatever it takes to get the job done and still be willing to pitch in to help others out. I'm getting burned out - now doing the work that was previously done by three people with no more pay. I started taking on freelance work with the idea that I would eventually quit and work for myself. And I've gotten complacent about searching for new work. So this conversation has given me the kick in the butt I needed to work a little harder towards my own goals - THANK YOU for that! So, can we call a truce?
          Sure, truce. My apologies for coming across so strongly. There are some hot buttons I have. This topic is one of them. I have these views due to an experience I had in turning around a high tech company that went public too soon and whose management team got into a shareholder lawsuit as a result. I was brought in as part of the management team that had to deal with that extremely difficult situation. The end result was good. We did ultimately turn the company around and sell it to our biggest partner. Fixing the company got the stock back up to the point where the shareholder lawsuit could be settled. Most employees who were able to stick it out until the end made some good money in the transaction. Lots of people didn't make it to the end.

          This was such a difficult assignment that I probably won't ever sign up to be a part of a turnaround ever again. The single hardest thing to deal with was the attitudes of the employees who were there from the beginning. Many kept trying to make the company the way it was when we had to take it in a new direction. At times, we felt we were held hostage by them because they had unique knowledge of our products. Ultimately, what I learned is that it doesn't matter what you know. NOBODY is irreplaceable. If an employee's attitude isn't aligned with the management team's direction, that person must go. That's because if they aren't with you, then they will make any of the changes you need to make that much harder.

          I won't deny that there are many management teams out there who are ruthless and don't care about their employees. There are also management teams out there who did care about their employees, take actions that favor employees to the best of their abilities and still are hung with the label that they don't care about them. It's for those management teams that I am speaking on behalf. I know. I was one of them.
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          • #35
            Boca - Apology accepted. Sorry you had such a difficult experience in the past.

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            • #36
              I do not think this is the right forum for thread, Hot tub or political is more like, leaving it up to the mods.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by bigfrank
                I do not think this is the right forum for thread, Hot tub or political is more like, leaving it up to the mods.
                Frank,

                I didn't really think of this topic as political, in a Democrat VS Republican way, at any rate. To me, it's just a sign of the times, and a discussion of what each of us is experiencing in our towns. I know many people are not members of the political forum, so would not be able to join in.

                If you think that it's too political for this forum, you can move it. I have no objection.
                Angela

                If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

                BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ArtsieAng
                  Frank,

                  I didn't really think of this topic as political, in a Democrat VS Republican way, at any rate. To me, it's just a sign of the times, and a discussion of what each of us is experiencing in our towns. I know many people are not members of the political forum, so would not be able to join in.

                  If you think that it's too political for this forum, you can move it. I have no objection.
                  I just thought since it started getting hot it should at least go into the hot tub, It is your forum and your thread , You are in charge.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bigfrank
                    I just thought since it started getting hot it should at least go into the hot tub, It is your forum and your thread , You are in charge.
                    OK, Frank, I moved it into the hot tub, for now. If need be, it can always be moved into the political forum.
                    Angela

                    If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

                    BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

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                    • #40
                      I don't think this is political kind of topic. It just nobody is depending on anyone. If you plan right, do the right thing, you will not be missed. The only people that will not be able to survive without you is yourself. I don't see it has anything to do with political.

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                      • #41
                        They just announced on the news that President Obama is going to tour Lehigh Acres, because it has the highest foreclosure rate, I think in the country. The unemployment rate in Lee county is 10%.

                        Earier in the week, they reported someone was robbed at gunpoint while stopped at a stop sign in Lehigh Acres.
                        another restaurant we enjoyed has just closed, they are falling left and right.

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                        • #42
                          Las Vegas Nevada


                          Station Casinos (Privately owned, about 14,000 employees)


                          Las Vegas has already been creamed by a (biblical) real-estate bust,
                          and now it may face the loss of its home-grown gambling joints, too.

                          Station Casinos which runs 15 casinos off the strip that cater to locals
                          recently failed to make a key interest payment, which is often one of the
                          last steps before a Chapter 11 filing. For once, the house seems likely to lose

                          Founded in 1976, in Las Vegas, Nevada, Station Casinos is the premier provider
                          of gaming and entertainment for residents of the Las Vegas metropolitan area.

                          Station owns and operates Red Rock Casino Resort Spa, Palace Station Hotel & Casino, Boulder Station Hotel & Casino, Santa Fe Station Hotel & Casino, Wildfire Rancho and Wild Wild West Gambling Hall & Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, Texas Station Gambling Hall & Hotel and Fiesta Rancho Casino Hotel in North Las Vegas, Nevada, and Sunset Station Hotel & Casino, Fiesta Henderson Casino Hotel, Wildfire Boulder, Gold Rush Casino and Lake Mead Casino in Henderson, Nevada. Station also owns a 50% interest in Green Valley Ranch Station Casino, Barley's Casino & Brewing Company, The Greens and Wildfire Casino & Lanes in Henderson, Nevada and a 6.7% interest in
                          the joint venture that owns the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas, Nevada.

                          * In addition, Station Casinos manages Thunder Valley Casino near
                          Sacramento, California on behalf of the United Auburn Indian Community.

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                          • #43
                            Rite Aid - Drug Stores


                            Rite Aid


                            Ticker symbol: RAD;
                            about 100,000 employees;
                            1-year stock-price decline: 92%

                            This drugstore chain tried to boost its performance by acquiring competitors Brooks and Eckerd
                            in 2007. But there have been some nasty side effects, like a huge debt load that makes it the
                            most leveraged drugstore chain in the U.S., according to Zacks Equity Research. That big retail investment came just as megadiscounter Wal-Mart was starting to sell prescription drugs, and consumers were starting to cut back on spending. Management has twice lowered its outlook for 2009.

                            Prognosis: Mounting losses, with no turnaround in sight.

                            Don`t forget to use up your Rite Aid Gift Cards!

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                            • #44
                              Minnetonka-based Snyder's Drug Stores Inc. announced Wednesday that it will close or sell 19 of its 47 corporate stores in Minnesota by mid-March.

                              Snyder's President Dave Schwartz said the company regrets the impact the move will have on customers and employees, but the closings are necessary in this economy. Company officials said hundreds of current employees will be without jobs, but they wouldn't give an exact number.


                              Two stores are being closed in my neighborhood. Each store is 2-3 miles from my house. But now with the grocery stores having pharmacy, plus CVS moving in, Snyders just can't make it.
                              Don

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                              • #45
                                Jeez

                                All of this makes me feel a bit better as I face a vote on raising alcohol and tobacco taxes at 2 PM this afternoon.
                                The increased revenue will only allow us to hold education and medicaid "harmless" with severe cuts to all other sectors of government. The smokers will cream me in the next election, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
                                M. Henley

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