How much for vinyl residing of house

[ArtsieAng Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close ArtsieAng]

Carol,

I am looking at a vinyl that looks like clapboard. Can't speak to green issues, but it looks great. Comes in a wider plank, too. Our village has pretty stringent standards, the Architectural Review Committee likes the stuff. Does HardiePlank need to be painted?

Avery

This is true...these days, they are making vinyl shingles, and clapboard that really looks like the real thing. It will save you quite a bit in maintanence over the years, and you can't tell the difference.

Avery...you should check before you do anything. Your town is crazy with zoning restrictions. Sal, the designer I work with, had to remove windows because they didn't meet the zoning requirements. Also, he is not permitted to use vinyl siding....Don't know if that would apply to all of your town.

[garyd210 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close garyd210]

Liquid siding my choice

I had my 2400+ sq ft 2 story house painted with a product called Liquid Siding, not Procraft. I'm in my mid 50's and was looking to the future of not painting. This product is thicker than paint and has a lifetime guarantee for me and a transferable 15 year guarantee to a new owner. I had 13 year old wood side paneling that was still in fine shape. It cost me $11,500. Procraft was roughly projected to be $35,000, which is another long life liquid application, which I was told is similar to vinyl siding in cost here in No. California. My neighbor was quoted $17,000 for vinyl 25 years ago just for the siding, but his 2 story has a lot of unique characteristics to it.
Do yourself a favor and get 3 bids with references, and then physically inspect the completed homes and speak with the owners for their opinions of the product. This can be very enlightening. Same for windows. There are some amazing windows out there with dual and triple panes, no maintenance, and I wish I knew of the tilt-flat windows that allow easy washing on both sides from inside the home.

Good luck!! Gary

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

This is true...these days, they are making vinyl shingles, and clapboard that really looks like the real thing. It will save you quite a bit in maintanence over the years, and you can't tell the difference.

Avery...you should check before you do anything. Your town is crazy with zoning restrictions. Sal, the designer I work with, had to remove windows because they didn't meet the zoning requirements. Also, he is not permitted to use vinyl siding....Don't know if that would apply to all of your town.

Sometime the windows are a hurricane issue, new state requirements call for "hurricane glass" (expensive) windows if within a mile of a body of water. There is a way around it, but it's a pain (you have to have custom storm covers for them stored on site for the building inspector to see). We do need to replace the kitchen window, but are leaving the others (Lawren, my contractor said no problem to change them later, and $500 a piece is exactly the number he quoted for what you're talking about, so I love my old windows). I've got the zoning issues covered, I know I'll be ok with what I'm looking at, but thanks, Angela... For what it's worth, our 'town' is broken up into several incorporated villages, mine is a pretty friendly village to work with...

Tony, my DH just bought a powerwasher and is looking forward to an excuse to use it more...

[TrickyD Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TrickyD]

Avery, I am not positive about this, but my brother and brother-in-law, both of whom install siding for a living have said on numerous occassions, that if washing
siding either vinyl or aluminum, with a presure washer one should always wash from the top down. If the water is sprayed up the pressure will force some of the water through the joints and can possibly ruin your insulation and cause wood rot.
Just some food for thought!

TrickyD

[Carol C Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Carol C]

In Oregon, our neighbors dealt with mildew with their vinyl paneling and the contractor had to do it over on several houses in our cul-de-sac. People are now using something that is made of cement and it looks so much nicer.

That's HardiePlank..or a HardiePlank clone. The original HardiePlank has a 50 yr warranty...not sure of their competitors on the market now, but it's worth checking into. I so much prefer it to vinyl...in fact my new house now has it!

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

Well, I'm still waiting for my estimate. But have become keenly aware of "seams" in the vinyl... It only comes in 12 foot lengths, so any longer expanse will have a seam, fairly unsightly imho... the "good" contractors try to limit the seams to the rear, but my house is on a corner and exponsed on all sides, plus there are several feet above the windows that will need seams...SO,,,,, I will have to do some more looking... UGH...I MISS OUR MANHATTAN APARTMENT,.....

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Well the first estimate is in.....from Sears

$18,000 just for the siding! The windows come in between $4200 & $4700 for 9 of them.

So the next question is.....what is the difference between air & argon gas between the panes? The Sears guy swore there were larger energy savings for the ( of course ) more expensive argon windows.

Husband is still swearing he won't take an equity loan....so I need some help convinving him that that is the way to go as we can deduct the interest from taxes.

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

Wow, Lawren. And I thought mine was bad. It came in at $11,200, plus another $1200 for shutters and window "caps." The house is a cape, so not much to speak of in terms of siding on the second floor. I asked about the planks Pat mentioned, but the contractor didn't know what I was talking about; will have to get around to a siding place myself to investigate further.

edited to add: our husbands must be members of the same "no equity loans" club...

[philsfan Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close philsfan]

Sears

In my experience, Sears is always the highest estimate you will get.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Insurance Adjustment Results

The line-by-line and draft arrived yesterday. I sense it is not enough to pay for the damage we have.

We have full-cost replacement coverage, but here's the game they want to play:

They have depreciated our roof. If repairs/replacements cost more than they have sent us, they want us to keep the receipts. If they total more than they have paid us, they will come back out and then pay us more.

I don't want to play that game. I am going to have at least 3 local contractors bid the work using the same line-by-line. If they are higher, I am going to ask for the full amount upfront. If I do the work myself, or have friends do the work, I want to be paid, or want my friends to be paid a fair amount.

If I don't do some of the work, which the adjustor said was perfectly fine, then I want full compensation for the value of the damage. In fact at the beginning of his explanation, the adjustor said, "If you want to take the money and go to Vegas, that's just fine."

Obviously, if I or friends or both do the work, I will not have the receipts. Same as if I do some of the work.

I just want to know before anyone does anything, and not play games.

[somerville Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close somerville]

I had my 2400+ sq ft 2 story house painted with a product called Liquid Siding, not Procraft. I'm in my mid 50's and was looking to the future of not painting. This product is thicker than paint and has a lifetime guarantee for me and a transferable 15 year guarantee to a new owner. I had 13 year old wood side paneling that was still in fine shape. It cost me $11,500. Procraft was roughly projected to be $35,000, which is another long life liquid application, which I was told is similar to vinyl siding in cost here in No. California.
Good luck!! Gary

My mother had Liquid Siding painted on her house. She has had problems with the product peeling in some areas. The company came out a couple of times to repaint, but the problems reappear, and she can't get any response from the company. In my opinion, the lifetime warranty is worthless.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

You can get seamless siding, at least in our area. In fact that is the name of the product/company Seamless siding. I believe it somes on a roll of sorts, or at least in longer lengths, and they cut to fit. No seams.

But have become keenly aware of "seams" in the vinyl... It only comes in 12 foot lengths, so any longer expanse will have a seam, fairly unsightly imho... the "good" contractors try to limit the seams to the rear, but my house is on a corner and exponsed on all sides, plus there are several feet above the windows that will need seams...SO,,,,, I will have to do some more looking... UGH...I MISS OUR MANHATTAN APARTMENT,.....

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

The second bid

Hendo Contracting just left and I am a much happier camper than I was when Sears was here. They have done work on many of my neighbors' homes. He left 4 double sided pages of references, 2 and 1/2 of those are in my town alone.

I have been doing a lot of research. Turns out the contractor from Sears has 46 Better Business Bureau complaints in the last 36 months. This guy doesn't have a single one.

His price which includes removal of the old cedar shake shingles, 1 inch DOW Styrafoam insulation, all soffits, shutters, custom window and door trim, shutters, gutters and leaders and my little weathervane cuppola is: $14,800.

LOW E Argon replacement windows are $300 each in addition to the quote.

I almost feel like calling off the last estimate which won't be done until the 20th. It will depend on my husband's take on this. By the end of June my house could look as good as new again.

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

Lawren,

Do you think he'd come to Long Island? I'm sure not, but thank you for your post, I have printed it to use as reference for all that should be included in an estimate. I didn't even ask about insulation, duh.

Avery

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

. But have become keenly aware of "seams" in the vinyl... It only comes in 12 foot lengths, so any longer expanse will have a seam, fairly unsightly imho... the "good" contractors try to limit the seams to the rear, but my house is on a corner and exponsed on all sides, plus there are several feet above the windows that will need seams...SO,,,,, I will have to do some more looking...

Avery the guy that was just here is using 16 foot panels on my house either by Royal Woodland or Crane. Both are .046 mpure died thru vinyl. One of the 2 also makes 25 foot lengths ( which doesn't help me as the one section is 28 feet but it may help you.