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[JWC Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close JWC]

Well, I could say the same thing, that's not true.
They removed several of my posts. Once I contacted them to dispute and they put it back up but only because I protested so loudly. This all goes back to them being in total control and if they don't like it it will be taken down !
They play by their own rules and they are not fair or open minded. They only want warm fuzzies.

You are entitled to your own opinion. I like TA a lot and found it to be very helpful for both the reviews and the forums.

[jlwquilter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jlwquilter]

Ever hear of the saying "My house, my rules"? Of course they are in total control - it's their site. Just becasue a site allows or doesn't allow certain things doesn't mean they are not in total control. The word 'allow' itself implies at least some measure of control.

It seems TA is set up to allow (!) the designated (control!) DEs wide lattitude (control!) over their little part of the TA world. To trash the whole site for a run in on one forum seems an excessive reaction to the whole site.

Just like those that say they HATED a resort because a front desk person was not very friendly. Not like that person, instance, etc., sure, but HATE the whole resort for it? Wow.

But as JWC says, you are entitled to state your opinion and we are entitled to state ours. I guess this falls under YMMV.

[1950bing Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1950bing]

I found jlwquilter last sentance most profound !
I am entitled to my opinion but TA WILL NOT LET ME POST IT !!!!!!
It is suppossed to be an open and free site. I think not.
I welcome all opinions from everyone.

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

It is suppossed to be an open and free site. I think not.
I welcome all opinions from everyone.

Nothing is free in this world, Like this site is free to use but some one has to pay for it to keep working like me, I pay for it so you can have your say, Many of the members here contribute money http://www.timeshareforums.com/forums/payments.php and there time to keep the site going so they can help people when they need help. If people did not contribute both money and there time, this site and many others would not be there for people to use. So do not say it is free like I said someone has to pay for it in one way or another.
Think about it will you.

[BWolf Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BWolf]

TA is not perfect, but it is a nice site.

I agree that people who paste bad reviews because they had a "run-in" with the person at the front desk and for similarly dumb reasons are annoying.

My pet peeve is they don't know the difference between Sanibel Beach Club I and Sanibel Beach Club II. I tried to educate them two years ago, but I still cannot find Sanibel Beach Club II listed on the site. The reviews go under Sanibel Beach Club I.

Sure, they are two small resorts on one small island so it isn't a matter of life or death, but I wonder what else they get wrong?

[1950bing Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1950bing]

Nothing is free in this world, Like this site is free to use but some one has to pay for it to keep working like me, I pay for it so you can have your say, Many of the members here contribute money http://www.timeshareforums.com/forums/payments.php and there time to keep the site going so they can help people when they need help. If people did not contribute both money and there time, this site and many others would not be there for people to use. So do not say it is free like I said someone has to pay for it in one way or another.
Think about it will you.

The reason I said it was free is because it states right there on their site that it is "free". I know nothing in life is free but one is not "free" to post if one is banned. If TA controls all that is printed on their site that they want people to see it would seem to me they would charge for a membership. If a site is "open and free" it should be for everyone or they risk being in violation free speech and or censorship ! TA is walking on thin ice and leaving themself wide open to finding themselves in court.

[gandalf252002 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gandalf252002]

I think you are confusing two different things Bing. The site itself is free by defination as there is no cost. What you are asking is totally different in that you are asking them to allow free spech. The access is free, just as you are free to either read the reviews or choose not to. Being free to access and being free to speak your mind are different.

The reason I said it was free is because it states right there on their site that it is "free". I know nothing in life is free but one is not "free" to post if one is banned. If TA controls all that is printed on their site that they want people to see it would seem to me they would charge for a membership. If a site is "open and free" it should be for everyone or they risk being in violation free speech and or censorship ! TA is walking on thin ice and leaving themself wide open to finding themselves in court.

[1950bing Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1950bing]

There is a higher authority above TA that controlls freedom of speech in America !
I think the Bill of Rights trumps any SOP that a website would have.
All I seek is fairness.

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

There is a higher authority above TA that controlls freedom of speech in America !
I think the Bill of Rights trumps any SOP that a website would have.
All I seek is fairness.

I hate to tell you this Freedom of Speach Stops when it involves websites and you have given your consent to that when you joined, EX you can not curse someone out, You can not post spam links, We are laid back here but there are rules and if you step over those rules then you can get edited and you can get banned as was your case with TA.

[1950bing Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1950bing]

I never curse.

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

I never curse.

I never said you did, I just pointed out that there are things you can not say or do even on here.

[gandalf252002 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gandalf252002]

BigFrank has addressed this so I will not. Obviously though you missed the point. That is , the TA website have extended you the courtesy (I use the term loosely) of utilizing their website. What courtesies and rules they allow you to use after that are up to them.

Whether it is fair or not is irrelevant. Fair should NEVER be an expectation in life. If it was, we would all be making millions of dollars, riding around in private yachts. Looking for fairness will get you knowhere as it often does not exist. Win-Win is great, but there is always compromise.

There is a higher authority above TA that controlls freedom of speech in America !
I think the Bill of Rights trumps any SOP that a website would have.
All I seek is fairness.

[BWolf Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BWolf]

Fair should NEVER be an expectation in life. If it was, we would all be making millions of dollars, riding around in private yachts.

I think I'd rather have a private island.

[1950bing Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1950bing]

Big Frank cleared it up.
When I clicked " I agree " on TA's site I agreed to :

Being discriminated against
Being abused
Being belittled
Being shunned
Being closed to reasonable debate
Giving up all rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution

In other words, being their little puppet on a string !

As gandalf said, nothing's fair but it is human nature to be fair and kind.

When I opened my store some 30 years ago I opened the door to everyone.
I guess I should have had a sign up sheet by the door for people to sign to allow me to treat them however I saw fit to include all the above. I could have treated them like dirt.
I treated all with respect. I ran a good business. TA needs to learn about that ! If they ran a store, they would be out of business.

[1950bing Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1950bing]

I think the word " free " should be changed to OPEN instead.
As stated before, free is opposed to a cost.
So, TA needs to say their site is open to all ( however except me )

P.S. TA has put into effect some of my suggestions. I don't see why they wouldn't want more of my input. It is their loss !