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He had his Adam's Apple shaved not removed. I really hope I am wrong because if not, it's an absolute insult to other transgenders. The majority cannot afford any plastic surgery, let alone massive amounts to turn their face and body into beauties. They can't afford designer clothing fitted to their bodies. They have the bodies with which they were born for the most part and now have to fit into the opposite sex.Pat H
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Originally posted by Pat H View PostHe had his Adam's Apple shaved not removed. I really hope I am wrong because if not, it's an absolute insult to other transgenders. The majority cannot afford any plastic surgery, let alone massive amounts to turn their face and body into beauties. They can't afford designer clothing fitted to their bodies. They have the bodies with which they were born for the most part and now have to fit into the opposite sex.
And she said that just in the last few weeks she has had access to professional hair and makeup people and it has made a tremendous change ( for the better) in her appearance.
You are correct that most Trans people do not have access to all this.
But having a celebrity such as Bruce/Caitlin in their corner is a HUGE plus for bringing awareness to this situation.
It certainly has opened my eyes.
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Originally posted by mpumilia View PostExactly. I really don't care what other people do in this repsect- you want to pretend to be a woman or a man- knock yourself out. But I am against glorifying it - putting the person on a magazine cover with a 22 page spread and making him/her out to be some kind of hero. Making this out to be "normal". Our policemen are heroes; our firefighters are heroes; our military are heroes. Not this wacko.
.....LOL!John
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Originally posted by LisaH View PostI read that he had breast implant surgery. He also removed his Adam's apple a while ago...
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Originally posted by Pat H View PostHe had his Adam's Apple shaved not removed. I really hope I am wrong because if not, it's an absolute insult to other transgenders. The majority cannot afford any plastic surgery, let alone massive amounts to turn their face and body into beauties. They can't afford designer clothing fitted to their bodies. They have the bodies with which they were born for the most part and now have to fit into the opposite sex.
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Originally posted by Glitter Brunello View PostUnfortunately your opinion is not all that unusual. But it is entirely uninformed. I happen to do work with the trans* community and I can assure that there are many people whose gender identity does not necessarily match the gender they are assigned at birth. They are not pretending to be anything other than their authentic selves. Did you know that hundreds of thousands of babies are born each year with genital characteristics that are "atypical?" In many cases where it was noticeable, doctors used to perform surgery to repair the genitals so they looked more like whichever gender they were closest to, or whichever surgery was easier. Today, the accepted medical protocol is to give the child an androgynous name and wait for the child to self-identity a gender before performing any surgery at all. In many other cases, gender anomalies have been found on a more subtle level in DNA or hormones and the like. It is accepted fact that not everyone's gender identity matches their genitals. And most transgender youth self-identify at a very early age, and it continues throughout their lifetime. They are NOT pretending.
Thanks to Caitlyn, this conversation is going on the world over. Even if it's too late for some of the older generations to wrap their narrow-minded heads around it, hopefully our children's generation will be more accepting. And if you want some less "sensational" treatments on the topic, there is plenty out there. Here is a bit of a 101 for starters.
https://gaycenter.org/wellness/gender-identity
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Wow, check this out! Members of the trans community are making their own Vanity Fair covers. I love this!
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/04/tran...ityfaircovers/
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Originally posted by wackymother View PostWow, check this out! Members of the trans community are making their own Vanity Fair covers. I love this!
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/04/tran...ityfaircovers/
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I really don't know what to think. I haven't read any more about this person than what's been posted on this site and initially thought that he had a chromosomal abnormality causing me to feel compassion for him as I do for transgendered people. However, refusing to do the full transformation and still being attracted to females is just confusing to me. I am somewhat sceptical now having read PatH's comments.
I really can't stand the Kardashians because my opinion is that they are dreadful and subversive role models for dignified & intelligent girls/women. Who knows why people in Hollywood do what they do really? There are all types of people in this world with very different motivations. I do believe some people would do the most bizarre things for non-altruistic reasons. Sure, there may be many detractors but he would have known that he would have many supporters also. The additional fame and money certainly wouldn't hurt.
*Having said that, I certainly want the world to be more compassionate and accepting of those who feel neglected, dejected and alienated.Syd
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Originally posted by Sydney View PostI really don't know what to think. I haven't read any more about this person than what's been posted on this site and initially thought that he had a chromosomal abnormality causing me to feel compassion for him as I do for transgendered people. However, refusing to do the full transformation and still being attracted to females is just confusing to me. I am somewhat sceptical now having read PatH's comments.
I really can't stand the Kardashians because my opinion is that they are dreadful and subversive role models for dignified & intelligent girls/women. Who really knows why people in Hollywood do what they do really? There are all types of people in this world with very different motivations. I do believe some people would do the most bizarre things for non-altruistic reasons. Sure, there may be many detractors but he would have known that he would have many supporters also. The additional fame and money certainly wouldn't hurt.Last edited by Glitter Brunello; 06-07-2015, 02:53 AM.
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Originally posted by wackymother View PostWow, check this out! Members of the trans community are making their own Vanity Fair covers. I love this!
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/04/tran...ityfaircovers/
I found this interesting too...concerning whether she is doing it for the publicity. The entire unfolding has certainly been orchestrated...but it's been a long time coming.
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/bruc...ry-1201513335/
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Originally posted by StressCadet View PostKind of like the Dove campaign. Real people.
I found this interesting too...concerning whether she is doing it for the publicity. The entire unfolding has certainly been orchestrated...but it's been a long time coming.
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/bruc...ry-1201513335/
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