Interesting articles on the Wuhan Coronavirus

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Denmark has free universal government healthcare, and they probably have better leadership than we do here. Why shouldn't they have handled the corona virus better. I bet they also believe in science.

This pandemic has shown that real science is the key, not the game of modelling. Some over reacted due to wildly inaccurate models with hugely inflated gloom and doom predictions, something that is also common in some other areas of public policy. Models can be manipulated any way the designer wants or sometimes are just screwy for other reasons. Switzerland, for example, used real science in reopening its schools next Monday. They determined that the viral loads carried by children were too low to infect either other children or adults, so Swiss schools reopen on May 11.

Denmark also defied the EU with a very strict border closure, not letting anyone in except Danish citizens or people with Danish residency permits. Everyone else from business travelers to illegal alien migrants were turned away. That helped cut their exposure.

Most EU countries with government run "free" healthcare have a much lower proportion of ICU beds than the US healthcare system, and that has proven a negative factor in dealing with the virus.

One of the strangest on the list of businesses allowed to reopen in Europe is Greece allowing brothels to reopen. I cannot think of a business model that has any closer customer contact.

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It looks like Israeli scientists have discovered an antibody that can successfully treat the Wuhan Coronavirus

https://www.dailywire.com/news/break...virus-antidote

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Interesting comparison of the responses in Sweden and Denmark on the coronavirus from the UK's largest circulation broadsheet newspaper, the Daily Telegraph of London:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...hout-lockdown/

Sweden kept its small businesses including restaurants, barbers, hairdressers, etc. open and has had a similar result as Denmark, a very similar country that used a severe lockdown approach.

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I heard that somebody in Madagascar had a drinkable cure for Covid. I wonder if it has any disinfectants in it. Remind you of anyone ?

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I heard that somebody in Madagascar had a drinkable cure for Covid. I wonder if it has any disinfectants in it. Remind you of anyone ?

No, but it does remind me of media distortions.

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I heard that somebody in Madagascar had a drinkable cure for Covid. I wonder if it has any disinfectants in it. Remind you of anyone ?

No, but it does remind me of media distortions.

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Oxford University professors say 6 foot social distancing rule not supported by science

The Director and a research associate at Oxford University's Centre for Evidence Based Medicine have written an article for a major UK newspaper saying that there is no scientific basis for the 6 foot social distancing rule:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...wo-metre-rule/

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One out of how many thousands. Typical republican bullshit where you look for one instance to prove something most likely untrue. And sometimes they go a step further, like Antifa being terrorists, when there is no evidence at all.
I see you say "professors say" but only mention one.

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One out of how many thousands. Typical republican bullshit where you look for one instance to prove something most likely untrue. And sometimes they go a step further, like Antifa being terrorists, when there is no evidence at all.
I see you say "professors say" but only mention one.

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One out of how many thousands. Typical republican bullshit where you look for one instance to prove something most likely untrue. And sometimes they go a step further, like Antifa being terrorists, when there is no evidence at all.
I see you say "professors say" but only mention one.

What are you saying Tony ? If a group unlawfully occupies public and private property and extorts , intimidates, destroys, robs and totally ruins areas of cities what are they ?

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One out of how many thousands. Typical republican bullshit where you look for one instance to prove something most likely untrue. And sometimes they go a step further, like Antifa being terrorists, when there is no evidence at all.
I see you say "professors say" but only mention one.

There is also a second study from professors at the University of Dundee in Scotland that also says that there is no scientific evidence that the 6 foot / 2 meter social distancing has any impact, but the major article I referred to is not just two random scientists, but one of them is the Director of the Centre for Evidence Based Medicine at Oxford University, one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Since all of these scientists are located in the UK, I strongly suspect that any impact on American politics would not have even crossed their minds.

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Looks like you and your experts haven't done such a good job with virus control in North Carolina.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawmakers...001923717.html

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/europe-ba...214406357.html

Can't say as I blame them considering how that a.. has handled this crisis

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Looks like you and your experts haven't done such a good job with virus control in North Carolina.

The problem in North Carolina is a one man show by our Democrat governor, assisted by his SJW Secretary of DHHS, Mandy Cohen. Our state Emergency Management Act does not give the governor the unilateral powers he has assumed for himself. That act allows an executive order in an emergency to restrict private individuals and businesses ONLY when the Council of State concurs with the governor's orders. Gov. Cooper's first EO to do that, which closed restaurants, recites that it was concurred with by the Council of State, but that is a baldfaced lie. Cooper emailed a copy of that proposed order to each member of the Council of State and asked them to email back their approval, but a majority of the Council emailed back a DISapproval. Cooper unlawfully issued the EO anyway. Since then, Cooper has thumbed his nose at the law by not even asking the Council of State to concur. He has unilaterally issued whatever orders he wanted. The Lieutenant Governor publicly denounced him for failing to follow the law and consult the required check and balance on gubenatorial authority, the Council of State. Now, the Lt. Governor has announced he will sue over the issue.

One particular area of concern on Cooper and Cohen's handling of the virus has to do with nursing homes. Unlike states like Florida which realized nursing homes were particularly vulnerable with this virus and put a high priority on them, Cooper and Cohen did not. When a reporter for WBTV News asked for data on the virus at nursing homes, Cooper and Cohen refused to turn it over, so WBTV sued them under the Public Records Act. Just before the judge was about to rule, Cooper turned over than data, and it turned out that 60% of virus deaths in the state were in nursing homes, by far the highest percentage in the south. Cohen's department is the one that regulates nursing homes, but they had done absolutely nothing about increasing the protection of those most vulnerable citizens, and even after that data got out, they still haven't.

Testing has been another area of incompetence by this pair. They dragged their feet on awarding a testing contract, and then gave it to a political crony which has been really slow on the uptake.

Cooper and Cohen have hamstrung private businesses putting many out of business, but done nothing to protect our most vulnerable citizens in the nursing homes. That is absolutely shameful.

I did not vote for Cooper last time and do not plan to in November.