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Credit Crunch - I am just amazed at this stunt.. Oh yea other family news shared too

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  • #46
    If you have HELOC, and it get cancelled by bank

    see

    When a HELOC freezes over - Apr. 21, 2008

    ...
    Know your risk. Areas where housing prices have fallen by 10% or more are prime targets for freezes, says Susan McHan, president of Opes Advisors
    ...

    Lenders are beginning to apply the same standards (standard home loan) to existing HELOC customers. Call your bank and ask what the loan-to-value cap is on new HELOCs. If your house debt is above that, your line could be at risk. A change in credit score or a missed payment could also flag your account. Reread your contract to see if such factors allow the lender to cut you off.
    ...
    If your HELOC is on ice
    Fight for a defrost. The letter from your lender should explain why the line was suspended and how to appeal. Some banks use automated processes to identify troubled markets.

    To prove that your house hasn't been affected, ask a realtor to pull prices for houses sold within three miles in the past six months, ask your mortgage originator to intervene, or have your house reappraised. The latter can run $400, but if you were counting on the line, it may be worth it.

    If a change in your risk profile is the cause, check your credit reports. Carr was told that her HELOC had been canceled because of a drop in her FICO score. But when she checked, it was above 800, so the lender reinstated her line.

    Compromise. If your efforts fail, ask for a lower credit line instead of a total freeze. The bank may be more amenable if you hold your primary mortgage there, as that's an insurance policy of sorts.

    Shop around. Not all banks have the same standards. If you have at least 10% equity, you may qualify with another lender. Search at bankrate.com, or click on the link above and to the right

    This is on April 2008. Don't know what the current situation is.

    Expect you may get into very unconvient time, then suddenly, all you think can be your safe net get cut. Although the bank may get a new safe net, that does not mean they will give you one.

    I think it is better to reduce debt, but keep reservation funds in hand.

    Jya-Ning
    Jya-Ning

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    • #47
      I only carry two credit cards and my credit limit was reduced drastically on one credit card. Payments were always timely and my balance was only 10% of my credit limit. Several years ago, I voluntarily closed several accounts and now it looks like I shouldn't have done it.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Quarterbore View Post
        Both of the cards I had reduced were business cards fwiw

        My Bank of America card is a personal card (I have no other Business Cards beyond the two they snipped).
        I just checked my business accounts, on-line, and so far, there hasn't been any change to my credit limit. I sure hope it stays that way.
        Angela

        If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

        BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

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        • #49
          Ken, congrats on the baby.

          IMHO there are two lines of credit that needed to be shortened years ago because they are credit junkies. They are the US government and everyones state governments.

          It seems a fair amount of people were encouraged by the lawyers TV ads in regards to running up credits cards bills because they could bail out by declaring bankruptcy and walk away from their obligations.

          I feel sorry for what our generation and other generation creation of govenment debts that have been for the generations following oours.

          We are fortunate in that we are both retired and I havenot had my main chargre card limits reduced down from $34,000 + as of last month. I always pay it off in full. We owe no money on our home, or other on our major pocessions and toys.

          Bruce
          The Rushes Door Co., wk 35. Desert Club Las Vegas RCI Pts. 1 UDI Cottage CMV UDI's & 7 Oak Timbers CMV UDI's with 30,000 Bluegreen Pts. 3 World Wide Vacation Club Lind Mar Puerto Vallarta. Fox Hills RCI Pts More of our Timeshare Ownerships.

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          • #50
            Gotta be aggressive

            Also a big congratulations!

            Some very good information has been shared with these threads. Credit is something that can never be taken for granted. This summer, I contacted my HELOC bank, Wells Fargo and told them that I had been on Yahoo and bankrate.com, learning that I could very likely qualify for a HELOC for 3.99%(for balance 50K+) or 4.49%(balance under $50k) at another bank, but I wanted to give them a chance to match this offer, I was at 6.50%. Wells Fargo came down a bit, but added yearly fees and requirements to open a checking account and ideally wanted all my business transferred to Wells Fargo. After having a payment lost inside the local branch almost a year ago resulting in a "hey deadbeat, you haven't paid us" two automated letters, about 10+ calls or visits by me to try to figure out what happened to my $2150 payment on $150 due; and then having 2 different WFB reps promise to get back to me, but didn't, I figured it was time to take my business elsewhere and I am so happy I did. I only owed 27k on my home with the HELOC, so I am sure the huge amount of equity and a 800+ FICO made all the difference in the world. Third Federal S&L has my business now and I appreciate the 2.01% reduction. Perhaps an un-wise move, but I am able to help my married daughter deal with a $17.1K CC debt averaging 19+% APR with my HELOC. She swore she had learned her lesson with credit cards! Sorry, but the comment about the living within one's means is a serious and non-humorous fact that I hope my daughter realizes. I think she now understands why I operated a side part-time yard job business for 14+ years and worked any possible overtime during my 26-year career. I have been blessed in so many ways and strive to be there for others who aren't so blessed. I couldn't do much for my brother's $100+k CC debt, nor his unplanned job loss after 2 prior waves of job layoffs at Xerox. A few years have passed and he is doing much better.
            garyd210 ps: Take lots of pictures of the children as they grow up so fast!!

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            • #51
              It is apparently a rough time for Credit Card Companies. Even AMEX, which was always more ‘exclusive,’ is having troubles.

              They announced that they are reducing their work force by 10%.

              American Express to cut 7,000 jobs: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

              All of us should prepare for tighter credit and reduced limits.

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              • #52
                Congratulations on the new baby.

                I just hope that money gets better in 4 years so that I can retire then.

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                • #53
                  Congrats on the new baby! May you be blessed with many happy days ahead!
                  So far my husband and I haven't been affected by the credit cutbacks. We don't charge large amounts and pay off the balances on our two cards every months, so maybe we won't be affected.
                  I tell my friends to make sure they have access to a poll of emergency cash - at least a few hundred dollars and to try to save something - even if it's only $10.00 every month. If jobs are lost, there will still be money to put food on the table. That should be the priority - the bills can wait.
                  I think the credit crunch is going to get much worse before it gets better. I foresee food shortages as well in the next year.

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                  • #54
                    I just got a letter from Amex. I usually have the option of paying big charges over time, but they are taking away that option. All charges now have to be paid in full.

                    Good luck with the baby!

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                    • #55
                      Shill alert

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                      • #56
                        Congrats Ken on your new addition!! shaggy

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