Plane Crash into the Hudson.. everyone ok

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

My mom agrees with you.....LGA is her favorite local airport, as well. Today's incident has not changed her opinion.

LGA is my first choice in fact I will even pay a higher fare with in reason to fly out of LGA over JFK. I am in and out in no time with LGA. Getting The luggage from JFK or even just walking to get to the Luggage is a joke.

[Beaglemom3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Beaglemom3]

I am even more in favor of taking the Acela choo-choo right into Penn Station from Boston now.

It takes, door-to-door, just about the same time if you add up having to get to Logan Airport for the 1.5-2 hour pre-flight check in and then the schlep into Manhattan from LGA.

Also, Amtrak rarely ends up in the Hudson.

I had THE worst landing at Chicago's Midway last month, truly terrifying. Cross winds and down drafts on Dec. 14th. Your basic death-spiral feeling.

[wackymother Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wackymother]

Midway is scary, Denver can be very scary, National is scary....

There used to be one in Hong Kong that was right in the middle of downtown--my friend who grew up there says it was like the scene in Star Wars where you're zooming between canyon walls, only the walls were skyscrapers. She swore it was the greatest airport and they never had an accident.

[billymach4 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close billymach4]

I heard it was a flock of birds - Geese ?

I have seen those dang Geese all around here in Northern Queens, and in the South Bronx. In fact I saw 2 huge flocks flying South Right toward LGA yesterday on my way home driving through the Bronx.

I bet it was part of that same flock that got sucked into those jet engines today!

[billymach4 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close billymach4]

A bit of overstatement, I believe. I've heard that the most difficult major commercial airport is Tegucicalpa, Honduras. In a mountain valley, the pilot needs to execute a series of turns at low elevation to make the approach, including one final turn just before landing. And the runways are short; the minimum distance allowed for landing a full-size commercial jet.

Tegucigalpa, Honduras Toncontin airport landing

Cockpit view of a jet landing into Tegucigalpa Honduras TGU

This is a view of the apporach. You can see the steepness of the descent, the short runway, the need to execute a final turn to align the aircraft with the runway, and the hill with large commerical buildings right in the approach flight path.

Steve,

Now you just had to get me re-hooked on these airplane videos now!!!

[Amanda Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Amanda]

I'm going to try to upload/attach a picture, a friend was on one of the ferries when the plane crashed..

I took the ferry in this morning and the workers were talking about how they helped rescue people.. it is a miracle that everyone made it off!! kudos to the pilot...

[Luanne Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Luanne]

Heard on the news that the pilot is a local "boy" (to me). I haven't read the paper yet this morning but he was given quite a write up.

[bevvy5 Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close bevvy5]

Just catching up on this. Sure makes you realize that the crew earns every dime of their salary. One news story I read mentioned there was over a century of experience between the cockpit and flight attendants. They are not glorified drivers/wait staff.

I'm glad I'm not flying for another six weeks. This would kind of freak me out.

[RESORT2ME Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RESORT2ME]

Just putting in a couple thoughts.

I still think flying has less chance of dying.

Everyone needs to hurry up and retire so you can crosscountry drive. It may not be safest, but I sure don't miss the security thing, the restrictions, cramped up space, baggage fees,...

Thank goodness for the resue personnel.

Can't say enough for aircraft crew and pilot training. I wonder if this type landing will be part of simulator training.

Happy travels everyone.

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

From what I heard that plane has some new technology. The pilot when landing in the water pulls some lever and the aircraft has something inflates below that keeps the water out enough so it stays buoyant. If this had been an older aircraft we would most likely lost lives.

[Luanne Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Luanne]

I also heard that the pilot is a licensed glider pilot and that's the technique he used to land the plane. It's also been reported he told his co-pilot he thought it would be a lot worse.

In our local paper (since he's a local boy) there were some quotes from his wife. He called her when it was over and told her there had been an "incident". She didn't find out what had happened until she heard about it on the news. She said she wasn't surprised to hear he was the pilot.

[buff Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close buff]

Here is a comment from an individual who watched the coverage of the incident. Shed a different perspective.

Well, after watching the interviews of many of the people on the Flight, I have concluded that while the pilot, crew, NYPD, FDNY and NY Waterway people were heroic, that MANY on the people on the aircraft were just disgraceful.

Just about everyone interviewed said that people were clawing over each other, knocking each other down. Many people were trying to take their luggage off the aircraft.

The old credo, 'Women and Children first" DID NOT APPLY to many on that aircraft.

I understand the desire to live and for self preservation, but in an incident like this, you can't be selfish. Selfisness is a disease in this country and it appears to have fully infected quite a few passangers on that aircraft.
I am very very happy that everyone lived, but for those on the aircraft who, in an attempt to save themselves, endangered the lives of others: Shame on you. Your actions were unamerican.

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

Here is a comment from an individual who watched the coverage of the incident. Shed a different perspective.

Well, after watching the interviews of many of the people on the Flight, I have concluded that while the pilot, crew, NYPD, FDNY and NY Waterway people were heroic, that MANY on the people on the aircraft were just disgraceful.

Just about everyone interviewed said that people were clawing over each other, knocking each other down. Many people were trying to take their luggage off the aircraft.

The old credo, 'Women and Children first" DID NOT APPLY to many on that aircraft.

I understand the desire to live and for self preservation, but in an incident like this, you can't be selfish. Selfisness is a disease in this country and it appears to have fully infected quite a few passangers on that aircraft.
I am very very happy that everyone lived, but for those on the aircraft who, in an attempt to save themselves, endangered the lives of others: Shame on you. Your actions were unamerican.

I kinda heard the same thing but it was not everyone who acted like that. Some people did right and some ruined it for the whole bunch.

[4ARedOctober Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close 4ARedOctober]

Sounds like most flights....emergency or not.

[Luanne Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Luanne]

I kinda heard the same thing but it was not everyone who acted like that. Some people did right and some ruined it for the whole bunch.

Yeah, I heard from the guy who stopped to help a woman and her child who had gotten "trapped" to be sure they got out okay. Even with those that might have been jerks everyone got out which has got to be a victory.