"No Country For Old Men"

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Saw it over the weekend. Have always enjoyed Cormac McCarthy's writing and films by the Coen bros. Reminiscent of Pekinpah type, but takes it further, IMHO.

Great acting, intense/riveting plot, graphic violence and interesting ending.
Will need to see it again to understand some things I didn't quite get.

Recommend for a few who appreciate what this film brings to the craft. Not all will like it because of the violence and ending.

I think that we like things all tied up with closure and tidy endings for the most part, however, that is not Cormac's style.

I, however, think that Tommy Lee Jones, Javier Bandem and Josh Brolin are all Oscar worthy.

One cautioned paw up !

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We saw it today. I agree with your synopsis.
However, i don't think viewing it again will answer your questions. I have quite a few, but don't think I'll ever find out the answer.

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We saw it today. I agree with your synopsis.
However, i don't think viewing it again will answer your questions. I have quite a few, but don't think I'll ever find out the answer.

I think that you're right. I wasn't sure who the older man in the wheelchair was, you know, the one with the cats and the week old coffee ?
Do you know ?

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Two paws up here. It is violent, but not gratuitousely. Emptyness pervades everything; it's much more depressing than The Road.

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The old man is the sheriff's uncle, as close to his father as he can get except in dreams.

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when sugar was arrested early in the movie, what did he get arrested for and how was he caught? Can't remember if it just showed the deputy bringing him in or what.

tommy Lee Jones was also excellent in "In the Valley of Ellah". I thought maybe some of those lines and saddlebags were makeup then, but I guess not.

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Chigurh (Javier Bardem) was arrested by the deputy, but I don't think we know why; all we know is that he had a compressed air cattle-gun. I think I assumed speeding, something mundane--but I missed that if it was given, and I haven't read the book.

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PStreet - you are brilliant ! Thanks ! I'm putting some of the pieces together.

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spoiler

I just can't figure out how he was in the motel room (El Paso) when the sheriff arrived , the sheriff is still alive, so what happened. A ghost?

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I just can't figure out how he was in the motel room (El Paso) when the sheriff arrived , the sheriff is still alive, so what happened. A ghost?

Which motel scene ? The first one where he gets 2 rooms ?

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no. El Paso, where Brolin was to meet his wife. Tommy Lee Jones goes back to the crime scene after talking to the other old sherriff. He sees the key lock blown out and hesitates. Chigurh is next to the bed in the room with a gun. Jones goes in with gun drawn, sees nothing exccept removed vent, screws and a few coins. Either Chigurh disappeared, or flipped a coin with him. Later, after chigurh does a few more things, we see a scene with Jones and his uncle and we know he has retired.

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I guess I am in the minority but thought it was a really bad movie. The only reason we went was because of Tommy Lee Jones. I could not for the life of me understand why Woody from Cheers was in the movie. He had nothing to do with the movie and contributed nothing from what I could see. The movie contained a lot of violence with no message or ending.

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When Sheriff Bell goes back to the hotel room where Moss was killed, he knows Chigurh was there, and might still be there, because of the way the lock was smashed, with the cattle gun. Bell draws his gun, and we see Chigurh waiting in the dark. I see him as sad, maybe teary, and not wanting to kill Bell--just like he didn't want to kill the old man at the gas station with the coin call. Bell somehow looks around and doesn't find anyone. He notices the cover for the duct on the floor.

Apparently, Chigurh decides not to kill him. I assume in his twisted logic, no bargain has been made. For the wife, however, a bargain has been made and he "has" to kill her. Tommy Lee Jones just got lucky as I see it.

I think he knows that, too, and that's why the next time we see him, he is telling his uncle that he is outgunned, which goes back to the opening when he told us that his father didn't have to wear a gun----times have changed. His uncle says we have to go on no matter how much evil there is.....but how do you do that? You get gunned down.


As I said, for me, totally depressing.

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Thinking about what you said about the coins on the floor. Maybe he did flip the coin with Sheriff Bell, and Bell called it correctly. That would neatly tie in the earlier coin flip. I like that better than Bell just missing him in the room. Certainly, that would leave Bell "outgunned."

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I guess I am in the minority but thought it was a really bad movie. The only reason we went was because of Tommy Lee Jones. I could not for the life of me understand why Woody from Cheers was in the movie. He had nothing to do with the movie and contributed nothing from what I could see. The movie contained a lot of violence with no message or ending.

Rancher,
Definitely agree with you on the Woody Harrelson role. Was he there just as a vehicle to show how ruthless Chigurh was ? His character didn't add anything as far as I could see - he was supposed to be so skilled, yet didn't seem to be that prepared.
B.