Kentucky Derby this Saturday!

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The field, in order of post position selection, is: Storm in May, Teuflesberg, Hard Spun, Liquidity, Bwana Bull, Street Sense, Cowtown Cat, Scat Daddy, Imawildandcrazyguy, Zanjero, Tiago, Circular Quay, Sam P., Nobiz Like Shobiz, Stormello, Curlin, Sedgefield, Any Given Saturday, Great Hunter and Dominican.


The odds are to be established later today.

We should find a way to have some friendly wager pool!

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The field, in order of post position selection, is: Storm in May, Teuflesberg, Hard Spun, Liquidity, Bwana Bull, Street Sense, Cowtown Cat, Scat Daddy, Imawildandcrazyguy, Zanjero, Tiago, Circular Quay, Sam P., Nobiz Like Shobiz, Stormello, Curlin, Sedgefield, Any Given Saturday, Great Hunter and Dominican.


The odds are to be established later today.

We should find a way to have some friendly wager pool!

Who won the other race before this?

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I want to place a bet. I bet on Melvin being there. In fact if you look in our photo server he is already there.

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Who won the other race before this?

In order to qualify these horses have had to win a certain amount of money in their juvenile year and leading up to now.

There are several qualifiers or training races prior to the Kentucky Derby including the Arkansas and Santa Anita Derbies, but the K Derby is the first Jewel in the Triple Crown. The 2nd being the Preakness and the final being the Belmont Stakes in June.

Interestingly Absent from this year's Derby will be three-time winning trainer Bob Baffert, who sent out three horses last year, and Hall of Fame trainers D. Wayne Lukas, a four-time winner, and Nick Zito, a two-time winner.

Here is a list of the horses running <JMHO it's anyone's race>:

ANY GIVEN SATURDAY/CIRCULAR QUAY/COWTOWN CAT/SCAT DADDY/SAM P. Trainer Todd Pletcher was back on the Churchill scene running his precision operation out of Barn 34 at "The Downs" on a warm and slightly muggy Louisville Wednesday morning.

The 39-year-old Texan was right on it early, sending four of his five Kentucky Derby colts trackside in his first set at 6 a.m. With their regular exercise riders at the controls, Any Given Saturday (Martin Mendoza up), Circular Quay (Tony Tamburino), Cowtown Cat (Loren Robson) and Sam P. (Horacio DePaz) stretched their legs over the big oval.

Sam P. jogged a mile, while the other three toured the strip a mile and three-eighths worth. Notably with the exception of Cowtown Cat all have raced at Churchill Downs previously.

At 6:30, Pletcher sent out his second flight of exercisers, which included the Florida Derby winner Scat Daddy. The good-looking Johannesburg colt, who finished fourth in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile at Churchill last fall, had regular exercise guy Mendoza aboard for a one-mile jog.

The three-time Eclipse Award winning trainer also had his Kentucky Oaks trio Cotton Blossom, Octave and Rags to Riches out for exercise Wednesday following his stable's "ship-over" from Keeneland racetrack Tuesday afternoon.

Pletcher noted that his five Derby candidates would paddock Wednesday afternoon, coming over with the horses for the day's fifth race.

BWANA BULL The Jerry Hollendorfer-trained Bwana Bull returned to the Churchill Downs track Wednesday morning after walking the shedrow Tuesday. Bwana Bull jogged a mile and a half under exercise rider Joe Hernandez.

"He's really feeling good," said assistant trainer Galen May. "When I brought him in, he tried to chase me out of his stall."

May reported that Hollendorfer will be at Churchill Downs Thursday morning.

Javier Castellano has the mount aboard the El Camino Real Derby (GIII) winner.

CURLIN/ZANJERO It was back to work Wednesday for trainer Steve Asmussen's Derby 133 contingent, two days after turning in their final major Kentucky Derby workouts.

"We gave Zanjero a walk through the paddock and jogged a little bit," Asmussen said. "We did a little less with him than Curlin. Curlin went off the right way and galloped a mile and a quarter. For both horses, it was their first day back to the track."

Asmussen indicated that Tuesday's paddock schooling session during the live races went smoothly for Curlin and Zanjero.

"They're both very professional," he commented. "We will school them again on Thursday, in front of a little bit more of a crowd. I very much expect them to accept the situation fine."

In addition to Monday's schooling session, Tuesday's afternoon racing action provided a little levity around the barn during the big week. Asmussen and his assistant, Scott Blasi, both owned horses competing against each other in the eighth race. Blasi's Golden Hare (second) out-finished Asmussen's WW Conquistador (third), settling a fun bout of trash talking on the track.

"There might have been a little trash talking," Asmussen joked. "It's horse racing; that's what the game was built on."

On a more serious note, the nation's leading trainer by wins, who conditions a stable of some 211 runners stabled at five tracks, was effusive in his praise for possible Derby favorite Curlin, saying, "He's what they bought," in reference to whether Curlin was what his owners expected when shelling out seven figures-plus on Super Bowl Sunday.

"Disadvantages will be aplenty for horses in this race," he said. "I do not believe the three races, or not running as a 2-year-old, will be any excuse. Mentally and physically, I think he has every bit as much chance as Zanjero does, and he has an extremely normal form and approach to the race."

And does training such a prominent Derby contender bring more pressure to the trainer?

"You don't run for them," Asmussen said. "As far as pressure, I think there are expectations. But it comes from you. You'd rather run the fast one. Pressure, I would think, is running one who isn't fast enough I'm excited just to witness the horse, much less be fortunate enough to be able to train him."

Asmussen said Curlin's Arkansas Derby "raised the hair on my arms" when he ran the final sixteenth of a mile as the trainer watched from his vantage point on the track apron at Oaklawn.

"Curlin, and the curiosity about him, is very understandable how good can he be? I think the horses that you can immediately compare him to, the ones I've seen recently, would be Point Given and Barbaro very big, talented horses. It worked out for one, it didn't for the other. That's the scenario we're faced with."

Curlin will be ridden by Robby Albarado in Derby 133, fitting for the Asmussen stable. It was Albarado who guided Asmussen's first Grade I stakes winner when Dreams Galore won the 1999 Mother Goose at Belmont. Zanjero reunites with Shaun Bridgmohan, who has twice won aboard him and was last fall's leading rider at Churchill Downs.

DELIGHTFUL KISS Trainer Pete Anderson was content with the turf workout put in by Delightful Kiss on Tuesday, a move made in preparation for "Plan B" a start in the Crown Royal American Turf on Friday since his horse did not make it into the field of the Kentucky Derby.

"Racing office representatives came by the barn this morning and we were still ready to enter (in the Derby) if the opportunity came up," said Anderson. "We were hoping to get in, that's all we could do."

Anderson flew in to Louisville with Delightful Kiss the Monday after the Arkansas Derby (April 16).

"He has a lot of talent," said Anderson. "Running in the turf race on Friday will give us some insight. That's the advantage to this I'll find out what to do with him the rest of the year."

Anderson, jockey aboard Forego in the 1973 Kentucky Derby, was invited to the Kentucky Derby Trainers' Dinner on Tuesday night in downtown Louisville and even asked to be on-stage as part of the festivities.

DOMINICAN/SEDGEFIELD The Silverton Hill colorbearers were both out on the racetrack Wednesday, with Dominican jogging and galloping after the break, and Sedgefield schooling in the gate and jogging earlier in the morning.

Trainer Darrin Miller was aboard Sedgefield, who went out before the break.

"He schooled in the gate, and then he jogged two miles," Miller said. "He's doing well."

Sedgefield had his final Derby breeze on Monday morning, going a half-mile in :48.40.

Dominican, who put up the bullet work Sunday when the gelded son of El Corredor breezed five furlongs in :59.40, got to stretch his legs a bit Wednesday. With exercise rider Willie Herrera aboard, Dominican jogged a mile, and then quickened his pace to gallop a mile and a quarter over the fast main track. The gelding is coming off a nose victory over Street Sense in the Blue Grass Stakes (GI).

"He has a handy way of going," Miller said. "He skips over the ground, and that's what helps him if he has to start and stop and start again, like he did in the Blue Grass."

Sedgefield will be the first Derby mount for Julien Leparoux, the 23-year-old native of Senlis, France, who won the Eclipse Award last year as the nation's outstanding apprentice. Rafael Bejarano, who will be riding in his third Derby, has the mount on Dominican.

Tommy Hamilton, who owns Silverton Hill Farm in Springfield, Ky., with his wife Bonnie, was on hand at the barn Wednesday morning, soaking up the pre-Derby atmosphere.

"It's very humbling to have two horses in the Derby," Hamilton said. "We've had success right from the start in this business, but this is just the greatest thing. We're having a great time and enjoying the Derby experience," he said.

"I do what Penny Chenery (owner of Secretariat) said: 'Celebrate the night before.' That's what we're doing."

Hamilton said Dominican was named for the order of priests and nuns who operate the parish and school in Springfield.

"We wanted to name him St. Dominic, the name of the school my kids attended," Hamilton said. "But the name was taken, so we decided on Dominican."

Sedgefield is named for a quail plantation in Alabama, where Hamilton has competed in bird dog field trials.

GREAT HUNTER/LIQUIDITY Trainer Doug O'Neill continues to be pleased with the progress of the two colts he will saddle in the Kentucky Derby since they arrived at Churchill Downs on Sunday afternoon.

On Wednesday morning, Great Hunter went to the track after the renovation break and was followed by Liquidity. With exercise rider Tony Romero aboard, each colt schooled in the paddock, jogged three-quarters of a mile and galloped 1 1/2 miles.

J. Paul Reddam, who owns both colts, is scheduled to arrive in Louisville on Wednesday afternoon and attend the post position draw. Reddam and Susan Roy co-owned Wilko, the Breeders' Cup Juvenile (G1) winner who finished sixth in the Derby in 2005. Both colts will be ridden by jockeys with Derby experience: Corey Nakatani will be aboard Great Hunter in his 13th Kentucky Derby, and David Flores will ride Liqudity in his ninth Kentucky Derby.

Asked if he had any strategy going into the post position draw, O'Neill said, "Not really. It really depends on what selections we get. I think everyone kind of wants to be not way on the outside and not way in the inside. There are probably about 15 slots that really aren't too bad and the other five are a little shaky."

O'Neill said he met Carl Nafzger, who trains Street Sense, at the 2006 Eclipse Awards dinner in January and asked him for advice regarding the post position draw for the Kentucky Derby. "He said, 'I think you want to try to stay somewhere toward the middle.' "

HARD SPUN Two days after his very quick Derby prep, Hard Spun continued to look the picture of health and happiness Wednesday.

With trainer Larry Jones aboard, the son of Danzig schooled in the paddock for 10 minutes, and then went on the track to gallop a mile and three-eighths.

"He was well-behaved in the paddock," Jones said. "Then we went out on the track, and he took me a little by surprise. I forgot how well he gets over the dirt track. He wasn't out of control in the gallop, and he sat on the bit for me, but when I went to pull him up, I had to convince him to slow down."

Jones had been training Hard Spun at Keeneland for two weeks before they returned to Churchill Downs, and worked the colt a mile in 1:42.40 on Polytrack on April 23.

Jockey Mario Pino was aboard Monday morning when Hard Spun flew five furlongs in :57.60, the fastest Derby Week work since General Assembly drilled five furlongs in :57.40 in 1979.

Today was the first time Jones was aboard for a gallop since they returned to Churchill.

"During the winter, I trained him at Fair Hill (Md.), where they have both a synthetic track and a dirt track," Jones said. "He trained fine over the synthetic, but he liked the dirt track a whole lot more. Today he reminded me how much he likes the dirt."

Hard Spun, owned by Fox Hill Farms, is coming off a 3-length victory over Sedgefield in the Lane's End Stakes (GII) on Turfway Park's Polytrack. Before that, he had finished fourth in the Southwest Stakes at Oaklawn Park, where Jones said he did not like the racing surface.

NOBIZ LIKE SHOBIZ Elizabeth Valando's Nobiz Like Shobiz galloped a mile and a half under Derek Sturniolo at Belmont Park Wednesday morning before being shipped to Louisville in the afternoon.

"He's leaving at 1:30," said Tagg, who was also scheduled to fly to Louisville Wednesday.

Cornelio Velasquez will ride the Wood Memorial (GI) winner in Saturday's Kentucky Derby.

STORMELLO The Stormy Atlantic colt was out for a mile-and-a-half gallop Wednesday morning under exercise rider Michelle Nevin.

"He went just fine," said trainer Bill Currin. "He wasn't blowing at all after the gallop, and he was hardly wet."

Currin is bidding to become just the third person in history to win the Derby as a breeder-owner-trainer. Should Stormello get the roses Saturday, Currin would join Thomas McDowell (Alan-a-Dale in 1902), and T.P. Hayes (Donerail in 1913) as the only people to pull off the hat trick.

Currin is encouraged to dream because of Stormello's final Derby prep five furlongs in 1:00.80 at Hollywood Park Sunday morning, with his Derby rider, Kent Desormeaux, in the irons. Currin calls the work the best of the horse's life.

Stormello, winner of the Hollywood Futurity (GI) in his final start as a 2-year-old, ran twice at Gulfstream this winter, finishing second to Scat Daddy in the Fountain of Youth (GII) and fourth behind that colt in the Florida Derby (GI).

STORM IN MAY/IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY The Bill Kaplan camp in Barn 41 at Churchill Downs was energetic Wednesday morning, still fresh with the knowledge that they would have two entrants in this year's Kentucky Derby.

While Storm in May had already been guaranteed a spot in the field, his stablemate Imawildandcrazyguy just got in the race after the defections of Xchanger and Cobalt Blue on Tuesday afternoon.

As a backup plan, Kaplan had entered Imawildandcrazyguy in the Crown Royal American Turf to be run Friday, at a cost of $7,500 in supplemental fees. Imawildandcrazyguy is owned by Lewis Pell and Michael Eigner.

Both horses galloped a mile and a half, separately, at Churchill Downs on Wednesday morning, with Storm in May also schooling in the starting gate. Local exercise rider Mick Jenner was aboard Imawildandcrazyguy, while co-owner, Felicity Waugh, was in the saddle on Storm in May.

A longtime horsewoman, Waugh is originally from Ireland and came to the United States in 1980. When asked how it felt to gallop a horse she co-owns in preparation for the Kentucky Derby, she smiled and replied, "Pinch me."

A common question this week to the Kaplan crew about Storm in May is how the colt's blindness in his right eye affects him. Kaplan, Waugh, and jockey Juan Leyva all agree that the lack of vision is not a factor since he has been blind in that eye since he was a week old.

"When he was two or three days old, he cut his eyeball on the right side," explained Kaplan. "They had to operate and during a second operation ended up puncturing the eyeball. He didn't lose the eye, but he is completely blind there.

"Some might say it would be a hindrance, but it has made him the horse he is today, very easy to be around and work with. The breeder (Kent Hersman) spent an inordinate amount of time, hours upon days, making him feel comfortable around everything. There was a lot of hands-on work with him and now, he waits for the rider to tell him what to do."

Added Waugh, "The horse is very confident. He and Juan know each other very well. There is a lot of trust between them."

Imawildandcrazyguy, however, is a different animal altogether. And aptly named.

"The first day I had him in the barn, he dropped the rider, dragged the hotwalker and even came after me," said Kaplan. "I called the owners and told them that he's going to hurt someone or himself. We need to geld him immediately. And, by the way, we need to change his name."

Before his racing career started, Imawildandcrazyguy was known as Cupcake Melee.

"He's no cupcake," Kaplan said.

"But what he does have is great cardiovascular ability. He will run all day and I expect him to be running in the end (on Saturday)."

Jockey Mark Guidry, who is approaching his 5,000th career victory, is named on Imawildandcrazyguy.

STREET SENSE James Tafel's champion Street Sense returned to the track Wednesday morning a day after working five furlongs in 1:01 to jog a mile with exercise rider Mark Cutler up before the renovation break.

Accompanied by a pony, Street Sense quietly went about his business while trainer Carl Nafzger outlined the morning activity to new University of Louisville football coach Steve Kragthorpe, who played college ball and graduated from West Texas State, near where Nafzger grew up.

Also looking on was Hall of Fame jockey Pat Day, who won the 1992 Kentucky Derby aboard Lil E. Tee.

"He was good out there this morning, it got him pumped up," Nafzger said. "He will walk in the morning and go to the paddock in the afternoon."

If the handicappers in the weather department are on the top of their game, chances are high for a possibility of an off track Saturday with a 60 percent chance of thunderstorms later Wednesday through Friday and a 30 percent chance of rain Saturday.

In his only off-track appearance, Street Sense ran third in last summer's Arlington-Washington Breeders' Cup Futurity (GIII) at Arlington Park.

"Will an off track bother him? No!" Nafzger said. "Will a fast track bother him? No! Will a slow track? No! He's going to run his race."

Calvin Borel will ride Street Sense and on Tuesday the veteran rider gave Nafzger a dry run to the winner's circle by guiding Golden Rod Stakes (GII) winner Lady Joanne to victory in her 2007 debut in a six-furlong allowance test.

"She finished the year a little later than Street Sense did and we got a little behind on her (for the Kentucky Oaks)," Nafzger said. "She will come back in the Dogwood (GIII, Breeders' Cup at a mile on June 2)."

TEUFLESBERG Co-owner Donnie Kelly grazed Teuflesberg outside Barn 40 after the colt's one-mile gallop on Wednesday morning before the renovation break.

Meanwhile, the barn was full of activity as photographers snapped shots of Teuflesberg being bathed; reporters waited to talk to trainer Jamie Sanders while she was being interviewed by a crew from CBS; and several friends, family members and fans arrived.

Kelly, who co-owns Teuflesberg with Sanders and Gary Logdson, said Sanders who also is his fiance -- was relieved Tuesday after she found out the colt would be able to race in the Derby following the defection of Cobalt Blue.

"Jamie was hard to put with for a couple of weeks," Kelly said with a laugh. "She was more frustrated than nervous because she thought he really deserved to be in there."

Now, the Teuflesberg team can concentrate fully on preparing the colt for the Derby. The colt will continue to gallop in the mornings and school in the paddock in the afternoons.

"That's just a routine for every race for him, leading up to the day that he runs," Kelly said about paddock-schooling the energetic colt. Sanders echoed her desire to keep the colt focused when discussing Wednesday's post position draw. Stewart Elliott, who won the 2004 Kentucky Derby on Smarty Jones, will ride Teuflesberg.

"We would like to have a post position that he doesn't have to stand in the gate very long because he so wants to get it on," Sanders said. "I want to have a post position where he loads last or second to last."

Asked about how she judged her chances to race Teuflesberg in the Derby, Sanders quickly answered. "I was pretty confident because I figured that God got me this far and if it was meant to be it, it would," she said. "But if it wasn't meant to be, it wasn't my time yet."

TIAGO The Pleasant Tap colt, a half-brother to 2005 Derby upsetter Giacomo, returned to the racetrack for a second morning at 7:45 after his flight from Los Angeles accompanied by trainer John Shirreffs.

Tiago, a deceptively well-made bay, delighted in the chance to stretch his legs on the big Churchill oval, nearly buck jumping as he went through the six-furlong gap and down the one-mile chute, dancing and prancing under regular exercise rider Frankie Herrarte, who was wearing a battery mike pack for the folks at ESPN.

After jogging a couple of furlongs in the chute, Herrarte moved Tiago out onto the main track and commenced a gallop that would last a mile and a half in the end. The rider flashed a big smile and nod when asked afterward if his horse liked the exercise.

Tiago, who captured the Santa Anita Derby last out on April 7 in only the fourth start of his career, had a full crew of connections trackside to observe the activity, including his owners and breeders, Jerry and Ann Moss, his rider, Mike Smith, and trainer Shirreffs' wife, Dottie Ingordo, who also serves as the racing manager for the Mosses.

When asked back at Barn 41 how Tiago was doing, Shirreffs flashed the same big smile that Herrarte had and said rhetorically: "You saw him, you tell me."

The trainer noted that his colt would visit the Churchill Downs paddock Wednesday afternoon with the horses for the second race.

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That's all fine, but all you really need to know is that the Queen is coming (after dropping by Jamestown).

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That's all fine, but all you really need to know is that the Queen is coming (after dropping by Jamestown).

I hear the Queen hasn't come in years....OH you mean she is attending the Derby??? I didn't know that.

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Yeah...

...the Pig Farmer be heer!!

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I want to place a bet. I bet on Melvin being there. In fact if you look in our photo server he is already there.

...the Pig Farmer be heer!!

I told you guy's I had a winning bet.

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But...

...it has already cost me $3650. Rita had two furs she wanted "remodeled' and Macy's had a New York furier in the Louisville Macy's today. Thus, she had an appointment at 1 PM EDT, and it all ended witha $3650 charge (but, gee whiz, we get free treatment and summer storage for them!!).

Now she has an August appointment to bring two fur wraps up for "remodeling". Not sure I want to be at the 2008 Derby.

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...it has already cost me $3650. Rita had two furs she wanted "remodeled' and Macy's had a New York furier in the Louisville Macy's today. Thus, she had an appointment at 1 PM EDT, and it all ended witha $3650 charge (but, gee whiz, we get free treatment and summer storage for them!!).

Now she has an August appointment to bring two fur wraps up for "remodeling". Not sure I want to be at the 2008 Derby.

It would have been cheaper for you to fly to NY and get it done here. I know a place on Queens Blvd that would have charged you a quarter of what you paid. In fact you might have been able to have shipped it here.

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All that expense without your steed Arnold running this year ?

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I Should Have Known...

...to ask a "WOP" (not, obviously, w/o papers, but perhaps guappo) from NY before I dealt with a NY native on the prowel for hick suckers.

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Arnold...

...has developed a hamstring and did not make the cut.

All that expense without your steed Arnold running this year ?

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Should we be looking for him in the can soon.

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He...

...escaped that same afternoon, driving to Cincinatti, which is, I suppose, near enough to the Kentucky line for a plethora of hick suckers.