Fantasy Football 2009?

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Sirius Radio FF League

I heard that Sirius Radio is going to have a Hall of Fame FF League running this spring. When I get more information I will post it. Players from the past will be playing. They must be replaying old games for the Stats.

Walt

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What do you think of using a Keeper League for next year. Your thoughts.


A keeper league is sort of a combination between a standard draft league and a dynasty league. Each preseason, most of the players are drafted, however, owners are allowed to keep a predetermined number of players on their roster from the year before. Most league rules allow only a handful of players to be retained by each team from year to year.

Roster size : 16 players. No injured reserved. There are no roster restrictions except that you must draft enough players at each position to field a starting lineup on opening day. With a roster size of 16, it is expected that 1 or 2 young players will be included on each team's roster during the season to develop into keepers.

Each team can keep from 0 to 2 players. The first year, it's possibly that because of poor drafting or poor team management, a team may not have any players they wish to keep.

Any players drafted in rounds 1 - 3 of the previous year cannot be keepers.

Players can be kept a maximum of 3 times. For example, you can draft a player in 2001, and then keep them for the next 3 years: 2002, 2003, 2004. In 2005, this player must go back into the draft pool of players.

For each player you keep, you must give up a draft pick 2 rounds higher than the player's draft position the year before.
If you keep an undrafted players (UDP) from the previous year, you must give up your 12th round pick. Players that were drafted and then cut still maintain their draft status. (01/10/2002)

Example 1 : You draft Thomas Jones RB Arizona in round 9 in 2001. He becomes the starter and you decide he's one of your keepers. In 2002, you must give up your 7th round draft pick (he becomes effectively your 7th round pick) to keep him. In 2003, he becomes your 5th round choice, and if you keep him for a third year, you must give up your 3rd round pick in 2004.

Example 2 : You draft S. Morris, WR KCC in round 5 in 2001. You decide to keep him. In 2002, he becomes your 3rd round draft pick (you give up a 3rd rounder). In 2003, because his draft status was round 3 in the previous year, he is no longer eligible for keeper status and is returned to the draft pool.


If you do not have a draft pick for the correct round to give up to keep a player, you must give up the next higher draft pick. This can happened if you trade away a draft pick during pre-season or have 2 keepers that have the same draft status from the previous year.
Example 1 : You decide to keep your draft pick in round 14 from the previous year and you also want to keep an UnDrafted Player (UDP). Both require that you give up your 12th round draft pick. Since you only have one 12th round selection, to keep both players, you must give up picks for rounds 11 and 12.

Example 2 : You want to keep a player you drafted in the 5th round last year. You also traded away your 3rd round pick during pre-season. To keep last year's 5th round pick, you must give up your 3rd round pick this year. Since you have no 3rd round selection, to keep this player, you must give up your 2nd pick.


When the draft is complete, the draft position the player ends up at will determine next year's draft position status.
For Example : You have 2 undrafted players (UDPs) you want to keep. Based on the rule above, you will have to give up a 12th and an 11th round pick to keep each. If the draft completes with your 2nd keeper being your 11th round draft pick, and you decide to keep that same player next year, you will have to give up a 9th round pick to keep that player the following year.

Here is my two cents. With the computerized draft, making all of this happen correctly will be nightmare unless you can go in and pre-set picks within the draft before it starts.

I like the rule stating that no one in the first three rounds can be kept. I like the 3 years max on keeping a player before he re-enters the draft.

In my opinion, the players you keep should not be part of the draft at all. Your team starts with players already assigned to it. If you cannot keep the player(s) you kept last year because you have had them for 3 years, you have the option of keeping your 3rd round pick from the previous year if you keep only 1 player or your 2nd and 3rd round if you cannot keep any players. Notice that I said 'cannot keep' and not 'will not keep'. If you don't want the guys any more, you shouldn't get that option. Extra picks are added to the end of the draft using the same draft order so that teams who will protect less than the maximum can fill their rosters. Even this is starting to get complicated, though.

In the last keeper league I ran, you could keep two players and you could keep them forever if you wanted to. The draft was shortened by two rounds and no one ever won twice in a row in 8 years. The fact that you set the draft order based on the previous year's performance keeps any team from being bad for an extended time. The team with the worst record probably isn't thrilled with the guys they keep but they get the first pick in the draft. However, this was an 8 team league. There were usually some great players still around with only 16 players removed from the draft vs. the 28 we would have in the current 14 team format.

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Can you enter us?

Yes

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What Players Would You keep?

What Players would you keep that are on your team now that were drafted after the 3rd Round?

Jonathan Stewart * Keeper

Jamaal Charles * Keeper

My Draft after the 3rd Round

4th Round.....Tony Gonzalez

5th Round.....Donald Driver

6th Round.....Anthony Gonzalez

7th Round.....Devin Hester

8th Round.....Jonathan Stewart * Keeper

9th Round.....Steve Smith

10th Round.....Shaun Hill

11th Round.....Cowboys

12th Round.....Neil Rackers

13th Round.....Beanie Wells

14th Round.....Deion Branch

15th Round.....Jamaal Charles * Keeper

16th Round.....James Jones

Walt

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What Players would you keep that are on your team now that were drafted after the 3rd Round?

Jonathan Stewart * Keeper

Jamaal Charles * Keeper

Round 6 - Benson, Cedric RB CIN
Round 16 - Mendenhall, Rashard RB PIT

Free Agent pickup Beanie Wells would get some consideration but Hightower steals too many points.

Without the top 3 round restriction:
Round 1 - Larry Fitzgerald
Round 2 - Dallas Clark

[Thirsty Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thirsty]

That seems like more involved than I'd like to be.

I think all of the tracking of drafts and UFA pick ups would be done by CBS. I think the only things each team owner would have to know is your draft picks from previous years if you wanted to participate in keeping players.

Al do you know if all the record keeping is done through CBS's Website?

Let the discussions begin.

If there is enough interest in doing a keeper league I will create a poll.

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I think all of the tracking of drafts and UFA pick ups would be done by CBS. I think the only things each team owner would have to know is your draft picks from previous years if you wanted to participate in keeping players.

If that's the case, why not? I think it would be interesting.

I suggest that if we lose any players that we drop back to 12 teams.

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I think all of the tracking of drafts and UFA pick ups would be done by CBS. I think the only things each team owner would have to know is your draft picks from previous years if you wanted to participate in keeping players.

Al do you know if all the record keeping is done through CBS's Website?

Let the discussions begin.

If there is enough interest in doing a keeper league I will create a poll.

I know that CBS tracks all historical data, drafts results , etc.
I don't know how it tracks the keepers, other than allowing the commish to set how many keepers and the length. I am locked out of that feature in my league set ups until the season is over. I'll check in a month or so and see whta options we have.
I do not know if it will know to take away a draft pick based on a keepers prior draft position. That might have to be done manually.

Al

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Can you enter us?

I sent invitation to everyone yesterday by email through CBS's Website. Would someone let me know if it went through and were you able to join?

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I sent invitation to everyone yesterday by email through CBS's Website. Would someone let me know if it went through and were you able to join?

I got it but it looks like I have no team

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I'm in along with Al, Len, Walt, Frank and Mike.

[Thirsty Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thirsty]

I got it but it looks like I have no team

Just before the the NFL playoffs start you will be able to make a team from the NFL players that are on playoff teams.

I will or someone (I am not at home and the connection I am using is painful) can post the number of players and positions you will need for your CBS Challenge team to be legal.

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Anyone up for a trade now that the season is over?

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Frank I will trade you Aaron Rodgers for Randy Moss

Len I will trade you Chris Johnson for Larry Fitzgerald

Chris Johnson is on the block...make an offer.

I want to make a trade to see how it works. We have never had a trade in our league.

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Mike, done. I'll start the process.