Has Anyone Heard of a charity: Community Health Training, Inc.

[laf Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close laf]

I was surfing TUG and discovered a charity organization on there - Community Health Training, Inc., which claims to be a federally mandated non-profit organization located at 7081 Montana, Las Vegas, NV 89110. Timeshares - We Buy I searched BBB and they had nothing on them. Community Health Training, Inc. claims to allow you to donate your TS and they will accept "ANY" TS. Basically, they state you pay them nothing up front; you pick your own title company to handle the transfer of deed from your name into their name. You give the title company $500 and pay the title company their fees. Once this is completed and the deed is in their name and you are no longer the owner of the TS, the title company "you chose" will pay the $500 to them and you can claim a tax deduction. Community Health Training, Inc. will then, as they state, not pay any maintenance fees or assessments to the resort. The resort will try to collect from them but will be unable to because of their "charity status" and after 36 months Community Health Training, Inc. will give the deed over to the resort. Of course you wouldn't care at this point because you are no longer the owner of that TS. For someone who wants to get rid of their TS and get back at the TS industry, this sounds like a great way to do it (!)? Is this legit? Thoughts anyone?

Wishing you well,
Lee

[tstrap Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tstrap]

would like to know

looking at doing the same thing with my timeshare. has this worked? can i really get out?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...-our-ts-5.html

#43 & #44 is about them

Given some time to think about what they are saying, and the fact that they are saying it so loudly, their intent is to defraud, and I doubt that it will fly.

But who am I?

[laf Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close laf]

I was able to successfully donate my TS to DFC. Check out my topic at:

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...ng-our-ts.html

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...-our-ts-5.html

#43 & #44 is about them

Given some time to think about what they are saying, and the fact that they are saying it so loudly, their intent is to defraud, and I doubt that it will fly.

But who am I?

Got to admit, they are more straight forward and honest then the TimeShare Management companies that sell Retail....Nice to finally see honesty when it comes to anything surrounding Timeshares!

[timeos2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close timeos2]

Since they state categorically that the "transfer" is fraudulent from the start any resort management doing their job can easily get the transfer reversed & the original owner will remain on the hook for the fees, interest & penalties and those, along with the foreclosure if it goes that far, will go on their records. But at least they will be $500 poorer and ultimately still have the ownership & obligation.

Yup. A great plan. For those getting the $500 but not the owner.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

Since they state categorically that the "transfer" is fraudulent from the start any resort management doing their job can easily get the transfer reversed & the original owner will remain on the hook for the fees, interest & penalties and those, along with the foreclosure if it goes that far, will go on their records. But at least they will be $500 poorer and ultimately still have the ownership & obligation.

Yup. A great plan. For those getting the $500 but not the owner.

I'd love to see an example of that...Don't forget, the TRANSFER itself is legit...Its what they do after the transfer that is shady legally...the seller has NO control over that...once the deed is turned over, legally, thats the end of it for the seller

I seriously doubt the owner would remain on the hook for the fees..I wish more PCC companies were this honest...atleast the HOA/POA/BOD/Scum would be able to see what they are doing to the Timeshare industry as a whole

If i sold my house to someone who told me straight out that he was buying it to burn down for the insurance money...that doesn't make it my house again after the insurance company finds out that i knew, it just means i knew

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

Some prosecutor might consider you a conspirator in that arson.

[timeos2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close timeos2]

It is not a "this could happen" guess but actual cases I am aware of
If a transfer is done to a fraudulent name / company / trust etc they can and will be refused by the resort & ownership remans with the legal owner who now wasted $500 or ehatever they spent. They may think they accomplished something they did not & are poorer for it.

No one should recommend such a dubious path.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

If they did not shout it so loudly, so that the owner selling to them did not know about the intended fraud, then there would be the possibility that the owner/seller was not a party to the fraud.

But, that is not the case.
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Fraud is generally defined in the law as an intentional misrepresentation of material existing fact made by one person to another with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act, and upon which the other person relies with resulting injury or damage. Fraud may also be made by an omission or purposeful failure to state material facts, which nondisclosure makes other statements misleading.

To constitute fraud, a misrepresentation or omission must also relate to an 'existing fact', not a promise to do something in the future, unless the person who made the promise did so without any present intent to perform it or with a positive intent not to perform it. Promises to do something in the future or a mere expression of opinion cannot be the basis of a claim of fraud unless the person stating the opinion has exclusive or superior knowledge of existing facts which are inconsistent with such opinion. The false statement or omission must be material, meaning that it was significant to the decision to be made.

Sometimes, it must be shown that the plaintiff's reliance was justifiable, and that upon reasonable inquiry would not have discovered the truth of the matter. For injury or damage to be the result of fraud, it must be shown that, except for the fraud, the injury or damage would not have occurred.

To constitute fraud the misrepresentation or omission must be made knowingly and intentionally, not as a result of mistake or accident, or in negligent disregard of its truth or falsity. Also, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant intended for the plaintiff to rely upon the misrepresentation and/or omission; that the plaintiff did in fact rely upon the misrepresentation and/or omission; and that the plaintiff suffered injury or damage as a result of the fraud. Damages may include punitive damages as a punishment or public example due to the malicious nature of the fraud.

There are many state and federal laws to regulate fraud in numerous areas. Some of the areas most heavily litigated include consumer fraud, corporate fraud, and insurance fraud.

Fraud Law & Legal Definition

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I was able to successfully donate my TS to DFC. Check out my topic at:

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...ng-our-ts.html

& 3 years have past and everything is OK, right?

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

It is not a "this could happen" guess but actual cases I am aware of
If a transfer is done to a fraudulent name / company / trust etc they can and will be refused by the resort & ownership remans with the legal owner who now wasted $500 or ehatever they spent. They may think they accomplished something they did not & are poorer for it.

No one should recommend such a dubious path.

Its a real name/company/trust, its just a name/company/trust that will refuse to pay...it's not like transferring it to "John Doe" at "123 abc St" when that person doesn't exist

The transfer is legit, its just the buyer intent that isn't

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

IMHO, the facts have already been stated . . . it is a conspiracy between the owner/seller and the buyer to defraud the resort.

period

[timeos2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close timeos2]

IMHO, the facts have already been stated . . . it is a conspiracy between the owner/seller and the buyer to defraud the resort.

period

You nailed it Jim. When an intent to defraud is involved then the "seller", if they know of it, is considered just as guilty as the alleged "buyer". Makes it easy to say the seller knew when the plan is outlined clearly on a website! It's usually harder to discover than that but hey, either way, they're BOTH busted!

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

You nailed it Jim. When an intent to defraud is involved then the "seller", if they know of it, is considered just as guilty as the alleged "buyer". Makes it easy to say the seller knew when the plan is outlined clearly on a website! It's usually harder to discover than that but hey, either way, they're BOTH busted!

Right, but the deed is still LEGALLY in the new buyers name...the contract may have been breached, but the deed is a separate legal document